Military flyovers aren't a political statement. It's basically a really loud noise to get the fans excited. As long as the fans like it and the military has to do their training missions anyway, they will continue.
Military flyovers aren't a political statement. It's basically a really loud noise to get the fans excited. As long as the fans like it and the military has to do their training missions anyway, they will continue.
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Crazy notion - why not let sports be just sports?
No military flyovers
No "Salute to Service" week
No giant flags on the field
No national anthem
No political messaging
No statements or demonstrations of advocacy
Just play the game. Let viewers watch a contest without making it political. Think about it, do you have to stand for the national anthem before watching a game show? Does "The Bachelor" feature armed services recruiting commercials? How about a requirement that "Sports Center" anchors must wear camo / BLM t-shirts one day per week? Food Network's "Chopped" doesn't have any challenges where the mystery ingredients are fish sauce, daikon greens, pepper spray from a Portland riot, and an MRE leftover from the first Iraq war.
If you wish to begin healing the divides in this country, then stop forcing politics and propaganda into EVERY aspect of our lives.
Because sports FOR MONEY involves MARKETING. Just because it's marketing that's not appealing to you or doesn't target your particular demographic doesn't mean it's not effective. Incidentally, I don't like it either (playing/singing the national anthem at a road race never doesn't seem forced) so I simply tune-out. Jim Thorpe and Shoeless Joe Jackson called and left a message telling you to walk your "purity!" cries back.
No problem with the comments, although as others noted, the pilots do need to get their hours in, so it is either a pointless trip here or a pointless trip there (although the fly overs provide some marketing benefit), so it really is not an additional charge for the tax payers. I make it a point never to take political advice from athletes that have had numerous concussions in their careers. The only thing I find offensive about Joe Buck is he got into the hall of fame and never played a game of football in his life. I ate dinner with Randy Gradishar a couple years back, who was a beast of a middle linebacker for one of the most overlooked defenses in the history of the NFL, and I can't rationalize how they can put in an announcer but not a guy like Gradishar.
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Crazy notion - why not let sports be just sports?
No military flyovers
No "Salute to Service" week
No giant flags on the field
No national anthem
No political messaging
No statements or demonstrations of advocacy
Just play the game. Let viewers watch a contest without making it political. Think about it, do you have to stand for the national anthem before watching a game show? Does "The Bachelor" feature armed services recruiting commercials? How about a requirement that "Sports Center" anchors must wear camo / BLM t-shirts one day per week? Food Network's "Chopped" doesn't have any challenges where the mystery ingredients are fish sauce, daikon greens, pepper spray from a Portland riot, and an MRE leftover from the first Iraq war.
If you wish to begin healing the divides in this country, then stop forcing politics and propaganda into EVERY aspect of our lives.
Military exhibitions aren't intended to be political..Unless you're an American hating socialist from Portland.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Fighter jet pilots must fly a certain number of hours per month to maintain their certs on the jet,
Does it look bad doing a flyover in front of a 25% (maybe) full stadium and is in a battleground state/area for the upcoming presidential election? Based on those optics, yes....but see my first point, so who cares when it's done?
I agree.
If they have to fly anyway, might as well see them do something that looks cool. Get our taxpayer's money worth.
I also agree with voting for Joe and Kamala, but don't have issue with the flyovers.
I'm a pretty outspoken liberal but I love a good flyover. Always thought planes were cool. Also helps that local flyovers typical go over my house. It's a show of military strength, not a political statement.
Joe Buck sounded like a clueless idiot, per usual. Aikman is less of an idiot but didn't know what he was talking about because the military gets a pile to spend on what they want. Biden-Harris isn't go to examine every line item and cut out flyovers.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Crazy notion - why not let sports be just sports?
No military flyovers
No "Salute to Service" week
No giant flags on the field
No national anthem
No political messaging
No statements or demonstrations of advocacy
Just play the game. Let viewers watch a contest without making it political. Think about it, do you have to stand for the national anthem before watching a game show? Does "The Bachelor" feature armed services recruiting commercials? How about a requirement that "Sports Center" anchors must wear camo / BLM t-shirts one day per week? Food Network's "Chopped" doesn't have any challenges where the mystery ingredients are fish sauce, daikon greens, pepper spray from a Portland riot, and an MRE leftover from the first Iraq war.
If you wish to begin healing the divides in this country, then stop forcing politics and propaganda into EVERY aspect of our lives.
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We, all of us, belong to the same country. We can disagree about when and where to use military force but seeing the folks who have agreed to risk their lives so that we can live in peace despite our contentious opinions should not viewed as a political statement.
A republic first, then we debate.
Even ole Aikman knows it's a "Kamela-Biden" ticket! LOL. I'm voting straight R up and down the ticket.
I think many of us are increasingly surprised at just how many people in America actually hate their country. Maybe they never had the courage to say it out loud until BLM came around, and now they feel emboldened and that they are not such a tiny minority any more.
L L wrote:
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Fighter jet pilots must fly a certain number of hours per month to maintain their certs on the jet,
Does it look bad doing a flyover in front of a 25% (maybe) full stadium and is in a battleground state/area for the upcoming presidential election? Based on those optics, yes....but see my first point, so who cares when it's done?
I agree.
If they have to fly anyway, might as well see them do something that looks cool. Get our taxpayer's money worth.
I also agree with voting for Joe and Kamala, but don't have issue with the flyovers.
Why dont they drop sand bags , and pretend they are dropping Napalm as training . They are already flying , and test machine guns into the Ocean.
Are flyovers of sporting events the most cost effective way to maintain proficiency?
I have to doubt it.
If not, are the tangential benefits worth the cost difference?
They have a point.
This unfortunately is the current atmosphere in the United States of America. Sick we are. And Covid19 has nothing to do with it. Sad
troy buck wrote:
This unfortunately is the current atmosphere in the United States of America. Sick we are. And Covid19 has nothing to do with it. Sad
What possible purpose does a military action like this serve? What is one of these things crash?
People will then be saying exactly what Buck and Aikman said yesterday and then some.
Yusef Scumm wrote:
troy buck wrote:
This unfortunately is the current atmosphere in the United States of America. Sick we are. And Covid19 has nothing to do with it. Sad
What possible purpose does a military action like this serve? What is one of these things crash?
People will then be saying exactly what Buck and Aikman said yesterday and then some.
What if we live our lives and one person dies from covid..its too many. We should cancel everything. Snowflakes
Trollin wrote:
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Crazy notion - why not let sports be just sports?
No military flyovers
No "Salute to Service" week
No giant flags on the field
No national anthem
No political messaging
No statements or demonstrations of advocacy
Just play the game. Let viewers watch a contest without making it political. Think about it, do you have to stand for the national anthem before watching a game show? Does "The Bachelor" feature armed services recruiting commercials? How about a requirement that "Sports Center" anchors must wear camo / BLM t-shirts one day per week? Food Network's "Chopped" doesn't have any challenges where the mystery ingredients are fish sauce, daikon greens, pepper spray from a Portland riot, and an MRE leftover from the first Iraq war.
If you wish to begin healing the divides in this country, then stop forcing politics and propaganda into EVERY aspect of our lives.
Military exhibitions aren't intended to be political..Unless you're an American hating socialist from Portland.
I’ve seen this a couple times in this thread. It is completely wrong. Military exhibitions are intrinsically political. Are we that historically and Constitutionally ignorant that we’ve just internalized it as normal?
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