real info wrote:
There's NO EVIDENCE that mutations or differences between strains have made it more or less infections, or more or less deadly. NONE.
You are wrong:
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30820-5real info wrote:
There's NO EVIDENCE that mutations or differences between strains have made it more or less infections, or more or less deadly. NONE.
You are wrong:
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30820-5We are testing many more people now. In Euope more people are wearing masks now and as you can see- fewer deaths
909 died in last day in USA. How is that down.
FinnJak wrote:
We are testing many more people now. In Euope more people are wearing masks now and as you can see- fewer deaths
Fewer deaths, but much more infections.
It's 3x the infection peak of April already.
Swaglord_the_real_one_1 wrote:
If masks don’t work anymore than why are places like China and Taiwan fine?
It’s because their people wore masks earlier on, and the community spread was reduced to super low. Whereas the US kept it alive and well the whole year. In Europe they got too lax.
You can still easily have a functioning society where everyone takes care, uses a mask, etc. Good quick testing helps too.
Idk why this has to be rocket science or political.
YMMV wrote:
Swaglord_the_real_one_1 wrote:
If masks don’t work anymore than why are places like China and Taiwan fine?
It’s because their people wore masks earlier on, and the community spread was reduced to super low. Whereas the US kept it alive and well the whole year. In Europe they got too lax.
You can still easily have a functioning society where everyone takes care, uses a mask, etc. Good quick testing helps too.
Idk why this has to be rocket science or political.
30 African countries have done better than China or South Korea, without masks.
Not even infections.
Just testing positive -- most are symptom free
please do not distort this wrote:
[quote]demoCAT wrote:
85% of mask wearers are getting the virus, what’s the point?
85% of the positive cases are coming from people who regularly wear masks.
Clearly less than 85% of Americans wear masks regularly yet 85% of the positive cases are coming from people who regularly wear masks.
Which means those are less frequently getting Covid.
Spray painter wrote:
So if I take a can of black aerosol paint and spray it at a mask, 100% of the spray will pass directly through and the mask will remain totally clean, right? Because masks can't stop aerosols?
You can be sure enough will get through to screw you up good.
You do understand that?
Sweden death rate in 2020 is at a 40 -year low with NO masking, NO lockdown, No violation of basic human rights.
False. Everything shows that fewer are infected. Now more people are being tested
King Tiger wrote:
FinnJak wrote:
We are testing many more people now. In Euope more people are wearing masks now and as you can see- fewer deaths
Fewer deaths, but much more infections.
It's 3x the infection peak of April already.
More people are being tested now. Before you had to show symptoms etc
GODDOG wrote:
PCR tests are meaningless. “New cases” are meaningless. Positives results don’t exist because there is no test.
Exactly. The PCR procedure developed in 1980 is not a test and has nothing to do with an imaginary covid19 virus that's never been isolated from human genetic material. The PCR test simply amplifies a portion of human genetic material.
Given enough tests and/or enough amplification, every human in the world will eventually test positive for that portion of human genetic material - which again, has nothing to do with an imaginary virus.
demoCAT wrote:
85% of mask wearers are getting the virus, what’s the point?
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Mask wearers are far more likely to test positive because increasing toxicity in the lungs stimulates the body to create more exosomes, which is the body's natural defense to rid itself of the increased toxicity.
Exosomes are often confused (often purposely) with imaginary viruses.
Other guy wrote:
85% of the positive cases are coming from people who regularly wear masks.
Which means those are less frequently getting Covid.
More is less?
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A Scientist wrote:
King Tiger wrote:
Who said I am anti-mask? Masks protect against droplets.
I'm saying the guidelines are outdated since there is evidence the virus is now being spread in aerosols. (you can read this in Nature)
The virus is clearly less deadly than before and it's being ignored by the media.
I want to discuss this.
My tone was not "passive aggressive" and yours is "actively aggressive". Clearly you are not a scientist.
Its spreading the same way it has from the start. Possibly more are catching it from aerosols because masks are being worn (blunting droplet transmission) and they are not quite as effective against aerosols. They are a lot better than nothing though.
Also, please provide proof that the virus is less deadly due to changes in the virus (not treatments).
Please provide proof that masks are better than nothing.
please do not distort this wrote:
demoCAT wrote:
85% of mask wearers are getting the virus, what’s the point?
85% of the positive cases are coming from people who regularly wear masks.
Not 85% of people who wear masks are getting it.
Do you see the difference?
I agree with you on your basic point but don’t make my arguments weak by stating dumb things.
The actual important point made in that CDC study was that there was no difference in infection rates or spread between mask wearers and non-wearers.
They do nothing. That’s the takeaway. Your level of social activity is what makes a difference, not whether you were a mask to walk in the park.
There are many studies. Surgical masks are a dime a dozen and what many people wear.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
From Abstract
Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.
Educate yourself.
Within your comment you actually tapped into the insanity and outright fraud in all of this.
(I see some discussion of the virus -correction=fraudulent results from misused PCR "tests"- results changing demographics to infect- correction= make believe concept based on fraudulent PCR "tests" of perfectly healthy people- more younger people...)
And quit conflating "infections" and "cases"- when you do so you immediately disqualify yourself from being considered an informed discussant.
https://twitter.com/Thomas_Binder/status/1302145409859702784
There are large scale crimes being committed by the Pharma-Tech Cartel and you're still confused about "cases?"
YMMV wrote:
Sweden death rate in 2020 is at a 40 -year low with NO masking, NO lockdown, No violation of basic human rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKBk_Se-I8E
That's obviously a conspiracy as is this- even though it's happening I know it really isn't cause two months ago I was told by the "new normals" that it wouldn't. Down the rabbit hole:
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/17/digital-health-passport-trials-commonpass-travel-covid-19Exactly.
Without the media hype and hysteria, who goes to get tested for a flu virus if you don’t have any symptoms?
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