Nonsense or legit? Donavan Brazier once again says he wants to play in the NFL

It is possible that if he could kick or punt a ball well he could make it in that respect. But that's very unlikely.

He's right that highly successful people tend to have the right mindset that pertains to being successful at many things - even athletically, but the issue is the practicality. While DB is running 200's and fartleks in his early 20's, genuine NFL prospects are in the midst of multiple years of training for football both physically and mentally. So Brazier, by the time he finishes his running career (another 5 years?) somehow needs to play catchup on those 5 years as well as the time that has passed already which means he will be 33-34 with diminishing physical traits and this is absolute best case scenario.

So really his logic is okay, the practicality is straight delusion.

He would have to gain between 20 and 40 lbs. At 6'2", he has good height for a wr, but there are still plenty in the combine that tall or taller, though wide receivers in the combine went down to 5'8". Few were below 180 lbs. They were in the range of 4.4-4.6, but many were 4.5 or under.

As a likely 45 second 400m man with very repeatable speed, he would be a good prospect if he gained the weight and actually had football skills, could run routes and take a hit. By the fourth quarter, I'm betting that his repeatable speed would allow him to be flying by the DB's, if he wasn't injured from the hits. If he trained for the 40y, he'd run a good time. Notably, a lot of guys will take off weight for the 40y runs at their pro days, then put it on for 225 lb press at the combine, or vice versa. So, I'm not saying he would be that likely to make it, but you're underestimating his speed and discounting his height.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2020-combine.htm

high school xc coach wrote:

he is delusional. did he ever even play football?

Yeah... and he got benched from the JV team due to what he believes were "team politics" and switched to XC where he cranked out 15 minute 5ks on low mileage

Poster, you have put a lot of time into your research. When I posted earlier, I thought maybe Christian Okoye may have been the only N.F.L. athlete (non-kicker) over past sixty years not to participate in college Am. football. A poster corrected me. Okoye played college football. You're listing height and possible sprinting speed for Brazier as if those two factors will decide Brazier's Am. football fate.

Can Brazier get open for a 5 yard slant route? Would Brazier catch the ball knowing he will get hit by linebackers and safeties? I took advanced physical education in college. There was a fella on D-1 college football team who was extremely fast but he was 4th string. I asked another receiver in advanced physical education why the real fast guy was 4th string. I was told alligator arms. Look-up alligator arm receivers.

Brazier is not playing cornerback. Those guys are great athletes. Brazier and N.F.L. is not happening.

this is silly wrote:

Poster, you have put a lot of time into your research. When I posted earlier, I thought maybe Christian Okoye may have been the only N.F.L. athlete (non-kicker) over past sixty years not to participate in college Am. football. A poster corrected me. Okoye played college football. You're listing height and possible sprinting speed for Brazier as if those two factors will decide Brazier's Am. football fate.

Vince Papale of course didn't play in college but did in HS. There have been a couple of rugby players (Christian Wade, Alex Gray,...) and Austrialian rules footballers (Jarryd Hayne ) who have made the NFL without college ball. But they were also playing sports whose skill set aligned pretty well with the NFL. Want to say there were a couple of throwers who also went this route.

Personally I think Carli Lloyd's chances of making the NFL are higher (like .01 vs 0001%:)).....

this is silly wrote:

I thought maybe Christian Okoye may have been the only N.F.L. athlete (non-kicker) over past sixty years not to participate in college Am. football

The Steelers had a pro bowl guard in the early 90's, Carlton Haselrig, who did not play college football. He was a 6 time NCAA wrestling champ, 3 in DII and 3 in DI, all for Pittsburgh-Johnstown. I don't remember if he played HS football but assume he did.

I expect that a lot of teams have a weird case here or there so it is probably rare, but not non-existent.

This is an absolute joke. He needs to stick to track. Zero future in the NFL. Couldn't even sniff the now defunct xfl. Christ the egos of these people. This just shows brazier is dumb as s h i t too

One snap of his ACL and he'll be begging to come back to the safety of the track.

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if he wants to he can do it. no one's stopping him from developing whatever ball handling or tactical skills he may need NOW, as long as he doesn't overwork himself. then he'd have a lot to do still later, but not impossible

otoh this is most likely just a publicity stunt. handegg clowns always think they're 'tHe BeSt AtHLeTeS' and could win everything in track if they just wanted to, so he's punking them at their own nonsense game of just talking out their ass. these guys abd especially their stupid fans are insecure douchebags and exposing themselves. crying when track people don't buy your bs about 't.o. is faster than gatlin' but then wimper about donavan saying he could play. hahaha!

it's because deep down even the most obtuse handegg chumps know ballplayers can't measure up to real athletes. trying to compensate with 'b-b-but it's violent and dangerous'. so? even the ones that used to be sprinters themselves go handegg full time and lose what they had. also get concussions and become retarded. no way back. track athletes are the REAL ATHLETES deal with it bytches

Precious Roy wrote:

He would need to put on about 40 lbs of muscle to be able to play in the NFL. Otherwise, he will just get flattened every time he gets bumped around the line of scrimmage whether he is a WR or pass rush. I think his frame is just too light to be able to compete in the NFL. And I am not sure he has the kind of 40 m speed to be effective. Maybe if the field length was doubled he would have a shot.

Two words - Ryan Hall

Sprintgeezer wrote:

“Anybody that’s really successful at anything they do, I feel like they can be successful at anything they try really hard at,” Brazier explains.

????????

This is funny because Sprintgeezer has never sniffed the level of success that DB has already attained. Sprintgeezer is a mediocre dude who couldn't imagine what it takes to be DB. Give me a break.

I stated in my 1st post on this thread, 5 years. The fellas you stated did not really play in N.F.L. When I posted, I knew Brock Lesner was in a MN Vikes uniform for a cup of coffee. I knew about Renaldo Nehemiah, James Hines, Tommie Smith and other cup of coffee guys.

Precious Roy wrote:

He would need to put on about 40 lbs of muscle to be able to play in the NFL. Otherwise, he will just get flattened every time he gets bumped around the line of scrimmage whether he is a WR or pass rush. I think his frame is just too light to be able to compete in the NFL. And I am not sure he has the kind of 40 m speed to be effective. Maybe if the field length was doubled he would have a shot.

Putting on 40 lbs of muscle would not be that hard for him. Just take a look at Ryan Hall who started off even scrawnier from all the miles and focused 100% on gaining muscle. I have no doubt Brazier could do that.

The real question is whether or not he is any good at football. Unless he was truly incredible in High School, then he really has no shot.

This kid's an idiot lol. Hope the lack of brain cells doesn't hurt his running in the future.

Considering that every NFL player is on a cocktail of muscle-building drugs that he's most likely currently avoiding (at least at the dosage the NFL players are consuming), I'm fairly certain gaining the required bulk without slowing down too much wouldn't be the issue. Whether or not he has or can develop the skill to play would be the only question.

Sometimes a person who has only ever known success doesn’t fully realize how much that success depends on a very high, very specialized level of talent. Brazier has never reached a point where he was unable to rise above his competition on the track. He became the best in the world. Since he has never fallen short of any goal, it might seem reasonable to him to think that he could similarly succeed at other athletic pursuits. It’s like Gwen Jorgensen thinking she could win the Olympic marathon. These people perhaps don’t have the context that failure provides to help them realize how unlikely it is to be world class at two different sports.

It appears Brazier is as "naive" as those on this message board claiming he will jog an 800m WR every time he enters a race.

ehso wrote:

Sometimes a person who has only ever known success doesn’t fully realize how much that success depends on a very high, very specialized level of talent. Brazier has never reached a point where he was unable to rise above his competition on the track. He became the best in the world. Since he has never fallen short of any goal, it might seem reasonable to him to think that he could similarly succeed at other athletic pursuits. It’s like Gwen Jorgensen thinking she could win the Olympic marathon. These people perhaps don’t have the context that failure provides to help them realize how unlikely it is to be world class at two different sports.

^This^

I admire DB's moxy, but it's also delusional. There are so many factors working against him. Lack of size, lack of strength, lack of explosive sprint speed, lack of experience....and we have no idea if he possesses the unique skill set necessary to excel in the NFL (good hands, coordination, agility, field awareness, vision, durability, etc). There have been a ton of elite athletes from other sports over the years who thought they could play in the NFL, only to find out NOOOOOOPE.