Jakob Ingebrigtsen and Kilian Jornet to square off in 10K road race

jogfest wrote:

Kipchoge wouldn't do well in a 100m, but would destroy KJ in a 100K. I don't understand why all you KJ fanbois can't see that a man who can run 4:40 miles for two hours can also jog 6:00 miles for five hours,

This is certainly true on any kind of reasonably runnable route. Obviously, unless he has talents we don't know about, Kipchoge is unlikely to fair well uf it requires mountaineering or some other non-running aspect.

First sensible post here. I think it will be between 90-120 secs diff.

JohnnyS wrote:

First sensible post here. I think it will be between 90-120 secs diff.

Right you are. Jakob ought to run sub 27.40. Approx 8 Celsius, sun and zero wind.

Jakob and his brothers are still not in the starting lists. Hope they'll show up!

https://secure.onreg.com/onreg2/startlist/index.php?id=5092&language=no&teamid=0&filter=&startrecord=-150

Yeah that must be pretty good condotions considering this time of the year.

Interesting to see if Jakob goes all in from the start.

Last year he ran with negative split as far as I know.

Seriously, you KJ haters are pathetic. Do you honestly think you know his motivations? Your myopic view of sport is sad. KJ grew up in the mountains and loves what he does. Thats why he does it, not because he is hiding from competition or whatever you think.

Guess what, there are people who like different things. I know that may be hard for you to understand. I am a perfect example but I am no KJ and did not grow up in the mountains but running flat roads is the worst. I thoroughly do not enjoy it. I either run trails or run on my treadmill. I am not even competitive really in ultras, usually finish in the top 20% but have no chance of getting on the podium at most races. But the funny thing is, if I just switched over to the roads, seeing some of the times at local races, I could easily podium at most of them or at least top 10.

Yes, Kipchoge would likely destroy KJ in any flat race of nearly any distance. But in the mountains Kipchoge would not stand a chance. Curious, how many times have you run at altitude? Do you even understand what its like to run up huge climbs at a high altitude? Or flying down a huge technical descent as KJ is known for? You don't even know what you're talking about and attacking others who are fans of his because they understand and are impressed with his talents. Sad.

Life must be really hard for you when you think everyone should care as much about the same things as you do.

Oh and I shouldn't need to point this out but I will anyway. For him to run flat races well requires him to train on the flats. When he talks about it being boring, hes talking about the training not just the race. That should be obvious considering for him to have any chance of being competitive would require him to pretty stay out of the mountains for most of the season. But hey because everyone should have the same view of sport as you do, if he had the talent why wouldn't he give up doing the thing he loves since running on the flat roads is all that really matters in life, right?

Jakob and Filip are in the startlist now!

Loppas wrote:

Jakob and his brothers are still not in the starting lists. Hope they'll show up!

https://secure.onreg.com/onreg2/startlist/index.php?id=5092&language=no&teamid=0&filter=&startrecord=-150

Two days ago, Jakob are going to run, according to Directsport/Nettavisen. But not his brothers.

objectiveobserver wrote:

Yeah that must be pretty good condotions considering this time of the year.

Interesting to see if Jakob goes all in from the start.

Last year he ran with negative split as far as I know.

You are right. He started to run fast at approx 7,5 K. First 5 K 14.02 and then 13.51. 2.35 the last K, a bit uphill.

One big surprise tomorrow. Narve Gilje Nordas, 21. He is in the team Ingebrigtsen. A long distance runner. Ran a mile at 3.56 earlier this year. He is in good shape and will surely beat KJ.

KaareV wrote:

One big surprise tomorrow. Narve Gilje Nordas, 21. He is in the team Ingebrigtsen. A long distance runner. Ran a mile at 3.56 earlier this year. He is in good shape and will surely beat KJ.

And also look out for Zerei Kbrom Mezngi. He beat Narve Gilje Nordås in the 10000 m in the Norwegian championship last month, but Narve beat him at the 5000 m!

Loppas wrote:

KaareV wrote:

One big surprise tomorrow. Narve Gilje Nordas, 21. He is in the team Ingebrigtsen. A long distance runner. Ran a mile at 3.56 earlier this year. He is in good shape and will surely beat KJ.

And also look out for Zerei Kbrom Mezngi. He beat Narve Gilje Nordås in the 10000 m in the Norwegian championship last month, but Narve beat him at the 5000 m!

Filip will also run. Confirmed just now. Mezngi might do very well.

Loppas wrote:

And also look out for Zerei Kbrom Mezngi. m!

Doesn't sound very Norwegian

Oh i think hes very elite,at what he does.Hes extremely good at ultra running,and mountain running,perhaps the best there is.Do i believe he'd be an elite marathon runner,or 10k runner?nope.not even close.He wouldnt have the leg speed to run a fast 10k or 10'000 meters on the track,and he wouldn't be up there among spain's best marathoners.They'd leave him in the dust.However give him a mountain to run up,and he'd win.

I think Kilian saying 29:30 might mean he wants to run 28:59. He might be surprised how much easier it is to race a 10k in a real race and not as a solo time trial in Norway. He's run under 30min for 10k in training in the last couple months, so I really doubt he won't be under 29:30 given decent weather.

Too bad Salomon doesn't have carbon-plate shoes (at least in production). Looks like Jakob Ingebrigtsen is a Nike athlete, so I assume he'll be wearing an alphafly (or equivalent) shoe? Is that what he's worn in road races previously?

Immigrant for Eritrea. Naturalized earlier this year.

Nordås turned 22 September 30. Both huge talents.

yayay wrote:

NERunner53 wrote:, they would have stuck to T&F if they were a fraction of a percent better,

Kilian never did T&F in the first place. He was a pure mountain athlete all his life . If he can rock up to his first ever flat road race at 32 years of age, with zero track background and with a huge amount of wear and tear in his body from decades of dominating 100 mile ultras, and still finish within a minute of Jakob, then it shows he has god given talent. Much more natural ability than his teenage competitor this weekend

I'm assuming you're joking that Jakob has no natural talent.