What, shoes aren't good enough any more Seth?

We're all spoiled

That’s called progress. Just like looking at cars, they have lane keep assist, back up cameras, navigation, heated seats, etc all standard. You can’t compare past versions with those today, you have to compare present versions.

Who??

Pretty sure this is the same guy that tried to say the Salomon SLAB Sense shoe is only good up to a half marathon distance. Which is hilarious because it was originally designed as an ultra distance shoe and up until the last few years was called the Salomon SLAB Sense Ultra.

Take his reviews with a grain of salt. The common theme is "Do they work for me, Seth James DeMoor?" without much regard to users being someone other than a 35 year old male ectomorph that gets free stuff and never puts more than 50-75 miles on a pair. He also does a lot of training on dirt roads (common in Colorado, not so much elsewhere). His "durometer test", "heel counter", and "predicted longevity" tests are jokes. His shoe dissections are interesting but, he draws conclusions based on the flex of the plate without consideration to how the entire plate/foam package is engineered to work in unison. It's like rating a supercar on horsepower only and forgetting that the suspension and chassis have much to do with how that power is applied to the road.

The most annoying parameter that he scores is weight. While light weight is a very desirable attribute, especially in a racing shoes, he gets fixated on sub 7 ounce shoes as some holy grail of quality and performance. I have to laugh when he geeks out over something like Atreyu's "The Artist" being a great marathon racer after a single run because it is 6 ounces in his small size but, dismisses a just over 7 ounce Hoka Rocket X as "meh" because it is "very heavy". WTF? Nothing about stability, possibly being better suited for a runner over 140 pounds, etc. Without considering your gait, where you start breaking down in a marathon, etc., how can SJD be so certain that a 6 ounce flat with get you a fast time and that the 7 ounce shoe is only good for tempo runs?

I want to like the guy but something seems off. I cannot tell if he is being sincere or if his enthusiasm is just an act.? Is he a bit narcissistic? Does he just thoughtlessly ramble through stuff to get 13-15 minutes of daily content uploaded? He seems to have blind spots regarding his audience. He also seems to come up short in many of his public endeavors. Good on him for putting his goals out there publicly but, I don't sense that he really has a deep understanding of how to properly train nor does he seem to run intelligently at standard distances. He has the talent to get away with it at ultras and trail races (lesser talent pools and more variables like fueling, hydration, and course features). Winning Pike's Peak was a big accomplishment but, it was an off year with COVID and the nearby wildfire smoke weakening the fields. A win is a win but, how would he have fared if Jornet, Walmsley, Gray, and others had shown up?

He's a religious zealot who thinks he is gods gift to running.

I’m so glad he is now featuring True Love’s weight loss journey on his channel. Very exciting content!!!

Seth seems like a good guy but Is way too too self centered. A few days ago he registered for the Miami half marathon. It has since been canceled but it seems crazy that he thought it was a good idea to travel to Miami in January. He has young kids and a baby that’s a few months old. Traveling to Miami seems a bit reckless.

I had to look up True Love’s Strava account. Her “runs” are at a 17:00/mile pace and she’s getting injured. She’d be way better off walking/doing something low impact and just worrying about diet at this point

Thank you for sharing this. My thoughts exactly. He's really gone down the drain as of late, but his views have gone up. He's cracked the code and there's no turning back now. Good for him, I'm glad he's able to game the system, but he's certainly not representative of all runners.

Have you seen her weight? That's why. She needs to lose wait before trying to run. She might wanna pickup cycling at first.

Seth demoor wrote:

Have you seen her weight? That's why. She needs to lose wait before trying to run. She might wanna pickup cycling at first.

She should be doing walks and lifting a couple times/weeks, and cut the damn processed carbs and oils. She would be svelte within a few months.

I can't shake the impression that he's..annoyed by his wife. All the 'true love' talk seems like overcompensating.

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streak wrote:

I can't shake the impression that he's..annoyed by his wife. All the 'true love' talk seems like overcompensating.

Honestly the happy nuclear family stuff is just an act. They probably hate each other just as much the rest of the happy American families.

He seemed to get quite a bit of backlash on his upload today too because it was a full advertisement the whole video with athleisure hobby jogger brand Lululemon and his overweight wife modeling some of the clothes. It amazes me why overweight people wear tight fitting clothes

doesnt know what hes talking about wrote:

Pretty sure this is the same guy that tried to say the Salomon SLAB Sense shoe is only good up to a half marathon distance. Which is hilarious because it was originally designed as an ultra distance shoe and up until the last few years was called the Salomon SLAB Sense Ultra.

Have you ever run in the original Sense Ultra 1-5, and Sense 6-8?

These are not Ultra shoes and you can see Salomon dropped the name for versions 6-8.

Yes, Killian did use these for Ultra races, but he is special - still running with perfect form after 100 miles.

I agree with Seth here, as there are much better options for Ultras.

I watched his review of the Skechers Razor 3 Elite yesterday and I just have to shake my head at his rant about the stack heights/drop. He thinks that a 4mm drop is problematic?! He slags Skechers as having poor build quality because, "they are not keeping up with the 8 and 10 mm drops from the elite shoe companies" (Note: paraphrasing on my part, don't want to go back to the video to capture it exactly.)

Huh? SJD might like a big drop but that doesn't make it right for everybody. I like a 4-5mm drop personally but, that doesn't make the Vaporfly Next% utter crap because I don't like 10mm of drop. That is not an indication of build quality or overall performance, Seth. It's a feature that you get on with or you don't. If you midfoot strike, why do you want all of that extra foam in the back? Heel strikers can be helped by it. Maybe it is a good thing if you drop onto your heels when fatigued? Regardless, personal preference is not a design flaw or a quality issue.

I am also getting bugged by his strong proclamations about a training method or a piece of gear immediately followed by, "I don't know? Maybe this is what I should do? I don't get the science. I don't know what the designer was thinking. Hit me up in the comments below if you know." Good lord, Seth! Pick a position and go with it. You sound like a confused hobby jogger that just read three books and a Runner's World article about training and are desperately trying to combine four differing philosophies into each training week.

I used to not like Seth, but ever since he started featuring True Love more often in his videos I’ve been hooked. I think she should start her own channel.