Cougar chases runner for 6 minutes in Utah (video)

Bad Wigins wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]Bad Wigins wrote:

Rocks may irritate a large predator but if it is serious about killing you it will.

The only true safety is to carry your spear with you at all times. This is how man defeated the beasts. They respect the long fang.

Cat that size you stand a decent chance of killing it.

But with a spear you stand a 100% chance, if you use it intelligently - assuming you're more intelligent than the small-brained animal.

Most of us do not run or hike with spears on our person

Sorry dude. Many people have successfully thwarted mountain lion attacks.

These are not lions or polar bears.

Fight back if attacked: A hiker in Southern California used a rock to fend off a mountain lion that was attacking his son. Others have fought back successfully with sticks, caps, jackets, garden tools and their bare hands. Since a mountain lion tries to bite the head or neck, try to remain standing and face the attacking animal.

All you need is a heavy handbag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z3jW1QoWQc

....and how many managed to kill it with their bare hands?

I was responding to the guy saying you would have a decent chance of killing it if it attacked......not true..

Other guy wrote:

Panicking is not a good reaction.

Not sure why you seem proud of this

Somebody here has to have the guts to be honest. Nothing sadder then keyboard chest thumpers and know it alls. If Im suddenly surprised by a very dangerous animal my instinct would be to run like the wind just like my hominid ancestors. Hardly think I need to apologize for that.

fools fools wrote:

Other guy wrote:

Sorry dude. Many people have successfully thwarted mountain lion attacks.

These are not lions or polar bears.

Fight back if attacked: A hiker in Southern California used a rock to fend off a mountain lion that was attacking his son. Others have fought back successfully with sticks, caps, jackets, garden tools and their bare hands. Since a mountain lion tries to bite the head or neck, try to remain standing and face the attacking animal.

....and how many managed to kill it with their bare hands?

I was responding to the guy saying you would have a decent chance of killing it if it attacked......not true..

Why not? Why limit yourself to your bare hands? You would use rocks, large sticks, whatever you could get your hands on. You are stronger than a 50 pound cat. You would have a chance against it. A real chance. Would you be the betting favorite? Probably not. But it is far from impossible that you could successfully fend off it's attack

Other guy wrote:

Most of us do not run or hike with spears on our person

Why not? People use hiking sticks all the time. Just make it pointy.

You raise an interesting question, which use of the stick came first? The power grip that can hold it firmly is a uniquely human trait that apes can't do. Were our ancestors first stabbing things with sticks, or hiking around?

Oh, and in case nobody's pointed it out yet, if that video guy had even had a decent sized knife, the cougar wouldn't have seen an attack through.

Other guy wrote:

fools fools wrote:

....and how many managed to kill it with their bare hands?

I was responding to the guy saying you would have a decent chance of killing it if it attacked......not true..

Why not? Why limit yourself to your bare hands? You would use rocks, large sticks, whatever you could get your hands on. You are stronger than a 50 pound cat. You would have a chance against it. A real chance. Would you be the betting favorite? Probably not. But it is far from impossible that you could successfully fend off it's attack

Kill. He said kill. How many would kill it?

And what's this 50lber talk? Females are 70-120lbs and males up to 200lbs.

Lets see you go find a share stick with 200lbs of cat clawed into you......

betting favorite? probably not? You'd have less than a 1% chance of killing the thing, I guarantee you that....

I. Rex wrote:

Other guy wrote:

Panicking is not a good reaction.

Not sure why you seem proud of this

Somebody here has to have the guts to be honest. Nothing sadder then keyboard chest thumpers and know it alls. If Im suddenly surprised by a very dangerous animal my instinct would be to run like the wind just like my hominid ancestors. Hardly think I need to apologize for that.

Big mistake.

You need to stand tall, make noise, arm yourself with rocks, sticks, whatever.

Scared and ignorant ain't good

[quote]fools fools wrote:

And what's this 50lber talk? Females are 70-120lbs and males up to 200lbs.

Did you even watch the video?

That cat was nowhere near 120 lbs, never mind 200 lbs.

50 lbs is a good guess.

The mountain lion killed by the hiker (yes with his bare hands) in 2019 was estimated at 35 to 40m lbs.

Other guy wrote:

fools fools wrote:

And what's this 50lber talk? Females are 70-120lbs and males up to 200lbs.

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Did you even watch the video?

That cat was nowhere near 120 lbs, never mind 200 lbs.

50 lbs is a good guess.

The mountain lion killed by the hiker (yes with his bare hands) in 2019 was estimated at 35 to 40m lbs.

One guy gets lucky and kills a baby mountain lion and suddenly all you internet survivalists can kill full grown mountain lion with your bare hands.

That cat is probably 70lbs with knives for hands. It would fking destroy you.

fools fools wrote:

Other guy wrote:

Did you even watch the video?

That cat was nowhere near 120 lbs, never mind 200 lbs.

50 lbs is a good guess.

The mountain lion killed by the hiker (yes with his bare hands) in 2019 was estimated at 35 to 40m lbs.

One guy gets lucky and kills a baby mountain lion and suddenly all you internet survivalists can kill full grown mountain lion with your bare hands.

That cat is probably 70lbs with knives for hands. It would fking destroy you.

Maybe. Not necessarily. What do you suggest? Don't fight back?

Look at the video.

The cat looks closer to 35 to 40 lbs, not 70.

You have size and strength advantages (well I do) and can use rocks, heavy and /or sharp sticks.

If the thing is going to attack you you have to fight back.

And, if you are seen to be larger than the cat and ready to fight, as opposed to showing fear, crapping in your pant, and running for it, you have a far higher chance of survival

Bad Wigins wrote:

Other guy wrote:

Most of us do not run or hike with spears on our person

Why not? People use hiking sticks all the time. Just make it pointy.

You raise an interesting question, which use of the stick came first? The power grip that can hold it firmly is a uniquely human trait that apes can't do. Were our ancestors first stabbing things with sticks, or hiking around?

Not much need for hiking sticks in the savanna. Plenty of need for a weapon.

FWIW

Other guy wrote:

fools fools wrote:

One guy gets lucky and kills a baby mountain lion and suddenly all you internet survivalists can kill full grown mountain lion with your bare hands.

That cat is probably 70lbs with knives for hands. It would fking destroy you.

Maybe. Not necessarily. What do you suggest? Don't fight back?

Look at the video.

The cat looks closer to 35 to 40 lbs, not 70.

You have size and strength advantages (well I do) and can use rocks, heavy and /or sharp sticks.

If the thing is going to attack you you have to fight back.

And, if you are seen to be larger than the cat and ready to fight, as opposed to showing fear, crapping in your pant, and running for it, you have a far higher chance of survival

35lbs?

So you think a cougar 1/3 the size of a normal average adult female had babies?.....ok. Thats like a 45lb human having a baby.

When did I say anything about not fighting back...I was responding to the fool who said you'd have a decent chance of killing it.....lol at that.

survive, sure.....if you are fit, reasonably strong and fight like hell.....you'd have chance sure. But you have barely better than a snowball's chance in hell of killing it. Less than 1%.

and your idea of foraging around for a suitable spear while being attacked by a mountain lion is absolutely laughable and shows how clueless you are. Unless the stick is 10-15 feet away from you ...you have no chance. Next time you are out for a run, keep track of how many suitable spears you come across....then divide that by how long you were out running. that's your chance of being near a suitable spear.

I've been chased by more than a few cougars back in the day, heh, heh, heh...