Cougar chases runner for 6 minutes in Utah (video)

This trail is right next to a heavily populated area. It's 2 miles from BYUs campus. Crazy to see how close we are to the wild without fully realizing it. I've spent hundreds of hours in this wilderness area and have never seen a cougar, but im sure they've had their eyes on me countless times. It's just so unusual to have a confrontation with one.

Walked in the same direction - not chased.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Rocks may irritate a large predator but if it is serious about killing you it will.

The only true safety is to carry your spear with you at all times. This is how man defeated the beasts. They respect the long fang.

Cat that size you stand a decent chance of killing it.

The Unkle wrote:

Cat that size you stand a decent chance of killing it.

It's rare that someone unarmed and unprotected by themselves can kill a mountain lion with their bare hands and no help.

Here's a rare exception, which is why it made national news last year.

And that was a small 50 pound cat.

Man is this place filled with blowhards and dime store wildlife experts. I dont buy any of your all's bluster for one second. If it had been me my "deterrent" would have been to sht my pants and scream. And then proceed to break the 3 minute mile and not stop until I was in Nevada. Did idiots here really say its not very big?

On a related note, I remember watching the Mount Marathon mountain race one year and one of the announcers said they once had to "postpone" the race because a bear attacked and killed a runner. Postponed?! They didnt just retire the race right then and there?! Getting eaten by a bear seems like an unreasonable race hazard to me! Those Alaskans are crazy. My guess is they also do triathlons in Orca infested waters...

Last year while archery elk hunting in utah (Monte Cristo area), I came across 3 full grown mountain lions at about 60-70 yds. They were drinking out of a spring I was going to sleep by and set up a blind by. They heard me and jumped out of the spring. At first I thought they were deer but then realized what they were. I had my phone in my pocket and debated getting it out and turning it on to take a pic but decided not worth potentially getting eaten so I backed out of there, chambered a round in a pistol I was carrying and hike back up to where I parked which was just about a hundred yards up a hill. I don't think they ever saw me and were just looking around to see where the noise came from. First time I have ever seen a cougar in the wild and I go out every year. It was probably a mom and two 1 1/2 year old cubs since I don't think males travel in pairs. I slept somewhere else that night!

I. Rex wrote:

On a related note, I remember watching the Mount Marathon mountain race one year and one of the announcers said they once had to "postpone" the race because a bear attacked and killed a runner. Postponed?! They didnt just retire the race right then and there?! Getting eaten by a bear seems like an unreasonable race hazard to me! Those Alaskans are crazy. My guess is they also do triathlons in Orca infested waters...

As a former Alaskan resident I can confirm this is false. Only one person has "officially" died during the race about 10 years ago. He simply disappeared near the summit and was never seen again and was declared deceased. No trace of him was ever found, not even by cadaver dogs. Some people say he faked his own death because of an alleged bad marriage. Who knows.

I ran a race in Anchorage about five years ago or so and encountered a bear during the race. It was a 12 mile race up and down a mountain. As I approached the 11-mile mark, I could see a bear lying off the side of the road up ahead. The race was pretty spread out with 2nd place a good distance ahead and 4th a good distance behind, so I was all by myself. The bear was watching me approach and it was an adult. When I was about 50 yards away, I started walking at a brisk pace (it was still a race after all). I kept my eye on the bear as I went past and it watched me closely. When I got about 50 yards past it, I started running again and looked back to make sure it wasn't following. It wasn't; darn thing was more interested in lounging in the sun than chasing me. I hauled a$$ the final mile and told them of the bear and the race director immediately dispatched a couple guys in a pickup truck to chase the bear off the course.

The Unkle wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Rocks may irritate a large predator but if it is serious about killing you it will.

The only true safety is to carry your spear with you at all times. This is how man defeated the beasts. They respect the long fang.

Cat that size you stand a decent chance of killing it.

But with a spear you stand a 100% chance, if you use it intelligently - assuming you're more intelligent than the small-brained animal.

With your bigger brain you can simulate the animal's primitive thinking. Its weapons are fangs and claws. Its strategy will be to get close enough to attack you with those. When it finds out you have longer range, a claw that is longer than it can reach, it will concede the fight and withdraw, as long as it is sane, which nearly all wild animals are. To its primitive understanding your are a cat with longer forelimbs and thus its superior.

Without a spear you have to rely on your opposable thumbs and powerful grip to grab it by the neck and maneuver to its back like an MMA fighter where it can't use its weapons. This is how Tarzan was able to kill lions and tigers, though he needed a knife to finish the job or it would have been a mere stalemate.

Throwing rocks amazes all animals. This again is the advantage of getting inside their little brains. They can't throw - it's magic to them, like we're turning rocks into birds. Sorcery.

I know someone will refuse to believe any of this so go look up videos of the tiger-keeper people managing their tigers and see how they use forked sticks to intimidate them. Cats can't handle it.

Before our mighty hands and brains developed, we were but frightened monkeys, prey for everything.

The Unkle wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Rocks may irritate a large predator but if it is serious about killing you it will.

The only true safety is to carry your spear with you at all times. This is how man defeated the beasts. They respect the long fang.

Cat that size you stand a decent chance of killing it.

good lord, the stupid just keeps pourin' outta you, don't it?

A person would have less than a 1% chance of killing that thing.....

Think about it...it's going pounce and latch onto your neck with its jaws and use its front claws to dig in and hold on and possibly slice your jugular while it's back legs rapidly slice your abdomen to shreds.

..so what's your counter? Indian burn?

This cat kills things IN ORDER TO LIVE.....it has hundreds, possibly a thousand kills to its record .....why is it it still alive and all those animals it had to kill to live...dead.

Because it's about a thousand times better at....that's why.

The average joe saying they could kill this thing with their bare hands is equivalent to the average Joe saying he's going to beat Kipchoge in a marathon.

One guy once got lucky and killed a sickly 35lber and it was international news....that doesn't mean going up against a healthy 70-80 lber is some kinda cake walk. Think about it as a pit bull with a hand full of switchblades and a 20 foot vertical....how you like them odd?

Granted, you might just be one of the humans that is absolutely clueless about these kinds of things.

Can we get a GoFundMe started to sponsor a Bad Wiggins Vs Mountain Lion cage match?

go look up videos of the tiger-keeper people managing their tigers and see how they use forked sticks to intimidate them. Cats can't handle it.

I'm not gonna get it for you. See for yourself. Man > tiger.

Bad Wigins wrote:

go look up videos of the tiger-keeper people managing their tigers and see how they use forked sticks to intimidate them. Cats can't handle it.

I'm not gonna get it for you. See for yourself. Man > tiger.

correction....a few thousand people on the entire planet would come out ahead vs a tiger....the other 7 billion would be eviscerated.

but you've never been great at math....

Unless you already had rocks in your hand or pockets...You should NEVER bend over to pick them up!!! Bending down will make you look smaller (you want to look as big as possible) and you will look like prey which will get you attacked. If you're going to run or hike where dangerous wild animals might cross your path take a bag of rocks and carry a BIG damn stick (maybe a hiking stick/staff).

former Alaskan wrote:

I. Rex wrote:

On a related note, I remember watching the Mount Marathon mountain race one year and one of the announcers said they once had to "postpone" the race because a bear attacked and killed a runner. Postponed?! They didnt just retire the race right then and there?! Getting eaten by a bear seems like an unreasonable race hazard to me! Those Alaskans are crazy. My guess is they also do triathlons in Orca infested waters...

As a former Alaskan resident I can confirm this is false.

It was a different race.

Guy sounds like a idiot.

I. Rex wrote:

Man is this place filled with blowhards and dime store wildlife experts. I dont buy any of your all's bluster for one second. If it had been me my "deterrent" would have been to sht my pants and scream. And then proceed to break the 3 minute mile and not stop until I was in Nevada. Did idiots here really say its not very big?

On a related note, I remember watching the Mount Marathon mountain race one year and one of the announcers said they once had to "postpone" the race because a bear attacked and killed a runner. Postponed?! They didnt just retire the race right then and there?! Getting eaten by a bear seems like an unreasonable race hazard to me! Those Alaskans are crazy. My guess is they also do triathlons in Orca infested waters...

You're a gigantic p%ssy and pee sitting down.

fools fools wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

go look up videos of the tiger-keeper people managing their tigers and see how they use forked sticks to intimidate them. Cats can't handle it.

I'm not gonna get it for you. See for yourself. Man > tiger.

correction....a few thousand people on the entire planet would come out ahead vs a tiger....the other 7 billion would be eviscerated.

but you've never been great at math....

You think you're clever and/or funny but all you're doing is trying to ruin a great thread. This is why unregistered posters are so universally despised.

Anyone with a stout spear can fend off a tiger if they are brave and strong enough. That's at least about half the world's people. How would you know otherwise? Have you tried it and failed? You need to learn to think positively and believe in yourself, not be such a Debbie Downer.

Bad Wigins wrote:

fools fools wrote:

correction....a few thousand people on the entire planet would come out ahead vs a tiger....the other 7 billion would be eviscerated.

but you've never been great at math....

You think you're clever and/or funny but all you're doing is trying to ruin a great thread. This is why unregistered posters are so universally despised.

Anyone with a stout spear can fend off a tiger if they are brave and strong enough. That's at least about half the world's people. How would you know otherwise? Have you tried it and failed? You need to learn to think positively and believe in yourself, not be such a Debbie Downer.

can you please show me the spot on the tiger where you would grab it with your super-strong human grip and roll it on it's back?

tellin' it like it is wrote:

You're a gigantic p%ssy and pee sitting down.

I think you are thinking about your mom again. That sucker can sure take some stretching. And I would pee running 40 miles an hour if a cougar was chasing me thank you very much.