World Health Organization Appeals to World Leaders: STOP USING LOCKDOWNS- MAKES POOR PEOPLE POORER

Alzheimer's and dementia - like autism - are caused by vaccinations.

This is a big LOL.

Have you checked prior recessions? Every recession the same trends happen. People travel less, the poor get poorer, kids go hungry, and so on. It's how it goes. The difference is the recovery from this will be very fast. Once we have a vaccine we can open the world again as if nothing happened. Just pick up where we left off in February 2020. Other recession take years to get back to where we were prior to the respective recession.

In other words, this is a big non-story. Just uneducated people spouting off nonsense to sound smart.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

This is a big LOL.

Have you checked prior recessions? Every recession the same trends happen. People travel less, the poor get poorer, kids go hungry, and so on. It's how it goes. The difference is the recovery from this will be very fast. Once we have a vaccine we can open the world again as if nothing happened. Just pick up where we left off in February 2020. Other recession take years to get back to where we were prior to the respective recession.

In other words, this is a big non-story. Just uneducated people spouting off nonsense to sound smart.

Lol. The irony.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

This is a big LOL.

Have you checked prior recessions? Every recession the same trends happen. People travel less, the poor get poorer, kids go hungry, and so on. It's how it goes. The difference is the recovery from this will be very fast. Once we have a vaccine we can open the world again as if nothing happened. Just pick up where we left off in February 2020. Other recession take years to get back to where we were prior to the respective recession.

In other words, this is a big non-story. Just uneducated people spouting off nonsense to sound smart.

You are an idiot- there's that.

The US has been experiencing INCREASES in mortality rates for 12 consecutive years. Gee- what year does that take us back to and what cataclysmic happened that year.

Before that the US had 20 straight years of DECLINES in mortality rates.

This year BTW will end being a lower increase in mortality RATE than the previous 6 years as it currently stands.

No pandemic- social conditions.

Recessions have been solved.

We were faced with the largest employment shock of ALL TIME and we just gave out $2400/month in unemployment coverage and BOOM... confidence at all time high and jobs come rocketing back.

Glad we got to do this experiment - no one would be dumb enough to cut off the unemployment benefit when there's still record unemployment and it's still working... would they?

London will be put into tier 2 lockdown on Saturday at midnight it was announced yesterday, which means a ban on household mixing indoors and discouraging people from travelling or using public transport. Health Secretary Matt Hancock told MPs this was due to an “exponential” growth in infections.

It’s not surprising that the Health Secretary has singled out rising cases as the key metric since the number of Covid hospitalisations in London was 51 on October 10th, with three deaths. That’s three out of nine million, or 0.00003%.

From Business Insider:

Speaking in Parliament on Thursday morning, the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock said more localized restrictions were necessary in London and elsewhere to stop the “exponential” growth in infections.

“In London, infection rates are on a steep upward path, with the number of cases doubling every ten days,” Hancock said.

But are cases doubling every 10 days? Here’s the graph by specimen date.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/London-Cases-201015-1024x518.jpg

Looks to be peaking around October 8th, even allowing for the lag in reporting. The Mail has also spotted that it appears to be slowing down. Here’s further confirmation from GP data.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/RCGP201015-1024x422.png

What about Liverpool, placed in tier 3 on Wednesday? Here’s the graph by specimen date. Daily cases appear to have peaked around October 7th there, too.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/LiverpoolCases201015-1024x520.jpg

What about Madrid, the erstwhile “second wave capital” of Europe? Here is its hospital occupancy graph, in sustained decline.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/MadridHospitals201015.jpg

Despite the continuing accumulation of evidence that lockdowns aren’t needed to control the virus, the Government’s new best friend, the many-headed WHO, was calling for lockdowns again yesterday after a brief spell of discouraging them. Reuters has the details.

Urging governments to “step up” swiftly to contain a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic, the WHO’s European director Hans Kluge said the current situation was “more than ever, pandemic times for Europe”.

New infections are hitting 100,000 daily in Europe, and the region has just registered the highest weekly incidence of COVID-19 cases since the beginning of the pandemic, with almost 700,000 cases reported.

“The fall (autumn) and winter surge continues to unfold in Europe, with exponential increases in daily cases and matching percentage increases in daily deaths,” Kluge told an online media briefing.

“It’s time to step up. The message to governments is: don’t hold back with relatively small actions to avoid the painful damaging actions we saw in the first round (in March and April).”

Kluge’s been looking at some “reliable epidemiological models”, apparently.

“These models indicate that prolonged relaxing policies could propel – by January 2021 – daily mortality at levels four to five times higher than what we recorded in April,” he said.

But taking simple, swift tightening measures now – such as enforcing widespread mask-wearing and controlling social gatherings in public or private spaces – could save up to 281,000 lives by February across the 53 countries that make up the WHO European region, he added.

Kluge does not identify these models, so we do not know if they are published or peer reviewed. (Ferguson’s infamous March 16th model has still not been peer-reviewed). But it’s okay because Mr Kluge has seen them and he can assure us they are reliable. So on that solid scientific basis he is telling the world’s governments to take “swift tightening measures now” such as masks (for which the WHO admits there is no reliable evidence) and “controlling social gatherings”. Just like that. But do such measures work, are they necessary, and are they worth it? What does the actual data say? These questions, as always, go unanswered.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2020/10/16/latest-news-164/#comments

About the graph:

Total COVID fatalities based on CDC guidelines of March 24th = 161,392

Total COVID fatalities based on CDC guidelines in use for 17 years prior to March 24th = 9,684

2600 bro wrote:

Recessions have been solved.

We were faced with the largest employment shock of ALL TIME and we just gave out $2400/month in unemployment coverage and BOOM... confidence at all time high and jobs come rocketing back.

Glad we got to do this experiment - no one would be dumb enough to cut off the unemployment benefit when there's still record unemployment and it's still working... would they?

The LRC fool is playing on his phone again. Not going to end well again for you. People are tired of this crap bro.

Why do you talk about masks worn by the "healthy public"? The recommendations for masks is for the infected and for medical workers.

There is no doubt that masks worn by the healthy do nothing to mitigate the spread of the virus to others -- they cannot transmit the virus if they do not have it.

A problem arises when the sick can be asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic.

We cannot say for certain who is infected and who is healthy based on symptoms.

There was a study in March showing the aerosol spread of this virus through talking and singing.

And there was evidence of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission.

This is different than previous viruses which required symptoms like sneezing and coughing.

This is the "new data" that led to the recommendation to wear masks when not social distancing.

But even without "new data" assumption and anecdote is enough to create scientific recommendations and guidelines, until we get more data, or until we get a vaccine.

With respect to children, the current WHO recommendation from an international and multidisciplinary expert group for children:

- Children under 5 should not wear masks

- Children between 6-11 should under certain conditions

- Children 12 and above should wear masks like adults, when 1-meter social distancing is not possible

I see no reason to dismiss recommendations from an international and multidisciplinary expert group and replace them with the fears of non-experts posting their google search results anonymously on running forums.

Wait, do you not realize that the requirements in most states are that healthy people wear mask in public, in some states any time you are outside. Many many people are now required by law to wear them at work all day long, many many (most) people need to work in this situation all day long just to support their families. It is insane. All children returning to school are being required to wear mask all day long just to return to learning and leave the social isolation pushed on them by covid crazies. This is insane and child abuse and will damage this generation of kids for years to come. Most people do not just wear a mask for 15 minutes a day; most of the people making this country work are forced like slave to mask up and do the bidding of their masters or be ruined. You are right, there is not reason scientifically to make the public wear masks like this, but the government do and the liberals push this measure with fascist vigilance . It is sick and wrong and needs to stop.

In addition, the notion of asymptomatic spread being significant is not verified data; it is merely a deluded assumption, one we have never used to justify measures for any other viral event previous. It is ridiculous. Yes, it probably occurs to some degree, but we could assume it is a minimal problem and that assumption would be equally valid at this point; forcing draconian measure based on bad, misguided, and outlier hypotheses that have never been used before is insane....only politicians in their quest for power are that insane. The hypothesis that this year's insanity is merely a product of a normal virus being used for political gain is a reasonable one and there is no denying that that would be credible.

Cute...rekrunner, that's basically what the Liberals say about FOX NEWS (you must be a Leftist?). OTOH, CNN is an "entertainment department" that caters to the Left. ?

Too bad there isn't any credible RCTs to show that - there's several studies out there in the literature that fail to demonstrate that masks stop the spread of viruses. Here's a list of the studies as well as a good debate on the issue between Dr. Rancourt (negative) & Dr. Johnson (affirmative):

That's not correct because Schumacher has testified in ABP-hematological anomalies CAS hearings as to his opinion to performance increases with elite runners. These hearings involve elite runners, not "sub-elite," not "highly trained amateurs," etc, - he's providing a professional opinion for the arbitrator as to an estimate of performance enhancement (I've explained that to you many times before).

This is your classic hypocrisy. If you don't agree with the expert(s) that I quote & reference from then it becomes your "Appeal to Authority" monta. I can say the same thing: You're a Fauci advocate and have quoted & reference from him before. I don't agree with much of what he says - perhaps you should apply the same "Appeal to Authority" philosophy with him. Lol.

Furthermore, Gupta doesn't have a "single opinion." She's one of the framers of the "Great Barrington Declaration" that has been acknowledged & signed by many other top scientists. I would suggest you read it and get a different view on an alternative strategy (other than lockdowns, restrictions, masks, etc) to combat the virus:

Yes...the "mandate language" does matter! It's called the LAW and every criminal statue has specific language so as to determine if there's probable cause to make an arrest. The lady is in a place of public accommodation (middle school football stadium). She tells the officer she was "asthma," and, additionally, is outside away from non-family members not violating social distancing protocol - both exemptions to the Ohio mask mandate "law" signed by the governor. Officers of the "law" should be familiar with the "law" in order to determine if there's probable cause to arrest:

We weren't talking about mandates for healthy people -- you said there was no new data for healthy people, and I agreed. The recommendations for mask wearing are for the sick, in order to stop the sick from spreading the disease, and medical workers, to stop them from contracting the virus.

I don't find wearing masks insane, or particularly problematic, and far from draconion. But if a mask is a problem, wear a cloth face covering.

You keep talking about child abuse and damaging this generation of kids -- but you talking is not enough reason for me to doubt the WHO or CDC recommendations and guidelines from an international group of multidisciplinary experts.

You say asymptomatic spread is not verified, and there are a whole load of other assumptions -- again, this is not enough reason for me to doubt the WHO or the CDC recommendations and guidelines.

The thing is, we know the impact of doing nothing.

In a matter of months, this virus quickly spread from China, to Europe, to America, to the world.

When has that ever happened before?

Wearing a mask is harmful to health, is dangerous, and is child abuse and abuse to the elderly.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/mask-whistleblowers-tell-all/

I don't know what "leftist" means to you, or why that is important -- I was educated in a university in a school of science and learned about the scientific process and fundamental logic. I don't pick my "news" based on what channel it comes from. And I don't take medical recommendations from the news.

We cannot wait for RCTs to issue guidelines for a disease that spread worldwide in a matter of months. Trial and error is also effective science, and we know what worked in China, and Asia, and Italy and Spain and Sweden, and we know what failed in the UK and the USA and Brazil. I don't really care about Dr. Rancourt or Dr. Johnson, unless they work for the WHO or the CDC, tasked with preparing recommendations or guidelines.

One pattern I have noticed is that countries whose populations debate masks also have high infection rates and high death tolls.

Schumacher has testified in CAS hearings -- this is true. But it is you who try to explain what his opinion means in contexts outside of the CAS hearing. I don't fault Schumacher, but you (and others) who try to interpret Schumacher's non-peer reviewed opinions, out of context.

Regarding the professor Gupta, it is not a question of agreeing or disagreeing with an expert. I don't agree with Fauci because of his status, but because of his approach and method and his content. I don't need to artificially prop up Fauci by saying things like "world renowned expert" in bold and italics, as a substitute for basis and process.

The mask mandate language is irrelevant if she was arrested for trespassing and resisting arrest. A policeman is not a lawyer. A lawyer might get her off later, but that is for the courts to decide, not a policeman at that moment. The fact is that she was asked to leave, refused to leave, and then resisted arrest. It is not very smart to resist the direction of a police officer. She deserved to be tased and handcuffed and arrested for her failure to respect authority.