Liberalism will, in the end, kill millions more than Covid 19 ever could, even if unmitigated.
Liberalism will, in the end, kill millions more than Covid 19 ever could, even if unmitigated.
One of the hallmarks of totalitarianism is mass conformity to a psychotic official narrative. Not a regular official narrative, like the “Cold War” or the “War on Terror” narratives. A totally delusional official narrative that has little or no connection to reality and that is contradicted by a preponderance of facts.
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The point is not the identity of the enemy. The point is the atmosphere of paranoia and hysteria the official narrative generates, which keeps the cult members (or the society) compliant.
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The global masses have been subjected to a constant stream of propaganda, manufactured hysteria, wild speculation, conflicting directives, exaggerations, lies, and tawdry theatrical effects. Lockdowns. Emergency field hospitals and morgues. The singing-dancing NHS staff. Death trucks. Overflowing ICUs. Dead Covid babies. Manipulated statistics. Goon squads. Masks. And all the rest of it.
Eight months later, here we are. The Head of the Health Emergencies Program at the WHO has basically confirmed an IFR of 0.14%, approximately the same as the seasonal flu. And here are the latest survival rate estimates from the Center for Disease Control:
Age 0-19 … 99.997%
Age 20-49 … 99.98%
Age 50-69 … 99.5%
Age 70+ … 94.6%
The “science” argument is officially over. An increasing number of doctors and medical experts are breaking ranks and explaining how the current mass hysteria over “cases” (which now includes perfectly healthy people) is essentially meaningless propaganda, for example, in this segment on ARD, one of the big mainstream German TV channels.
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While it is crucial to continue reporting the facts and sharing them with as many people as possible — which is becoming increasingly difficult due to the censorship of alternative and social media — it is important to accept what we are up against.
What we are up against is not a misunderstanding or a rational argument over scientific facts. It is a fanatical ideological movement. A global totalitarian movement … the first of its kind in human history.
Click on the most cases/fewest cases tab to alternate.
No need to say anything further really....
macdaddy OG wrote:
why do you care? wrote:
I'll ask again even though you never respond: why do you care so much about the poors? Are you one of them?
He doesn't care about the poor. He uses vulnerable populations - the poor, the abused, the mentally ill - as pawns, but has never contributed to their success before.
If he put half as much time into real world, tangible solutions compared to posting nonsense on letsrun, he might actually be a help to the world. Instead, he does this.
I truly hope the brojos post message board statistics for the year like they have in the past. This guy has spent DAYS on here. What a life.
Allen.... any comment on this? Any work you've done for these populations lately?
Any comment on your obsessive posting? Looks like you're at it again today...
2600 bro. wrote:
This poster is making constant personal attacks which violates the guidelines and the terms of service.
Allen53 wrote:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/13/the-covidian-cult/
From the article:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej-sTHbXsAEn1TU?format=pngWhen you're desperately trying to pretend that the world is threatened by an apocalyptic virus, and then Sweden ruins it by letting everyone carry on with their lives as normal.
I am beginning to understand why these senseless, repetitive, tyranny globalist lockdown supporters just don't get it and continue to attack those who present logic and facts that show how the lockdowns and other oppressive measures are in fact unnecessary:
Brain Damage
https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/10/brain-damage-from-masks-cannot-be-reversed/
dunes runner wrote:
2600 bro. wrote:
This poster is making constant personal attacks which violates the guidelines and the terms of service.
It's all they got.
What about these long-term effects? What say you to this covid cultists?
https://twitter.com/Brixton_Ben26/status/1314650142516051969
Allen53 wrote:
What about these long-term effects? What say you to this covid cultists?
Who are you talking too?
Liberals and democrats want everyone to listen to expert recommendations like from the WHO's special envoy, and avoid using lockdowns as a primary solution. They would prefer a pro-active central leadership that implements effective prevention.
Sweden, once they shored up their nursing home deaths, looks like a pretty good option now.
But this approach requires strong central guidance focused on people's health and the economy, and a population that plays along with the recommendations of their health experts, rather than protesting, finger pointing, playing the blame game, and spamming message boards, because solutions to contain a highly contagious disease only work when compliance is high.
Meanwhile, here in New Zealand, where there was one nationwide lockdown for 5 weeks back in March/April (and a partial later lockdown in August in Auckland following a second localised outbreak) the disease has been eliminated in the community, with the loss of only 25 lives. Apart from international tourism, as the border remains closed, life has resumed without restriction. So how's it going for you guys, who rage against lockdowns?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Meanwhile, here in New Zealand, where there was one nationwide lockdown for 5 weeks back in March/April (and a partial later lockdown in August in Auckland following a second localised outbreak) the disease has been eliminated in the community, with the loss of only 25 lives. Apart from international tourism, as the border remains closed, life has resumed without restriction. So how's it going for you guys, who rage against lockdowns?
Are we really comparing New Zealand and the United States?
New Zealand is a small isolated island a thousand miles away from its closest neighbor with a population of five million people who has basically cut itself off from the rest of the world.
The United States is the third largest country in the world landmass wise with a population of 330 million people surrounded by countries many more times populated than New Zealand. Not to mention highly populated South and Central America right next door as well.
Such a useless comparison. You going to compare the United States & The Solomon Islands, which has a grand total of two COVID cases, next? How about we compare the US with Montserrat or Greenland?
I am Sam wrote:
Click on the most cases/fewest cases tab to alternate.
No need to say anything further really....
https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-cases-since-june
It is really convenient that this stupid chart starts after the pandemic was essentially over after so many thousands were slaughtered in Blue states. This is the definition of misleading data/propaganda. Most of these cases are healthy people showing no symptoms but tested positive because these states were more responsible and implemented broader testing strategies which included the testing of more healthy people. It is ridiculous to freak out over positive tests/cases because the more responsible a state becomes in the context of testing the more they are declared a failure by stupid people; this is a just a product of more testing and probability and nothing more. In the end the deaths per capita have been far far heavier in the blue states across the board, these states were, and often still are, far more restrictive in they way they limit the movement and ability of their citizens to do business and make a living. This kind of "science" is a disgusting misuse of scientific information, and if anything these efforts should criticized more heavily than they are. Garbage. Below are the real facts; the "Blue" leaders and their champions are the ones who failed the people of the USA:
State Deaths/Million Red/Blue
New Jersey 1,836.30 Blue
New York 1,717.10 Blue
Massachusetts 1,385.70 Blue
Connecticut 1,271.40 Blue
Louisiana 1,221.60 Blue
Rhode Island 1,075.20 Blue
Mississippi 1,046.70 Blue
District of Columbia 902.6 Blue
Arizona 792.3 Red
Illinois 731.7 Blue
Michigan 726.5 Blue
Florida 723.3 Red
Georgia 702.1 Red/Blue
South Carolina 694.5 Red
Delaware 676.8 Blue
Maryland 663.6 Blue
Pennsylvania 661.1 Blue
Texas 593 Red
Indiana 567.7 Red
Alabama 551.9 Red
Nevada 543.5 Blue
Arkansas 533.8 Red
Iowa 472.6 Red
North Dakota 468.5 Red
New Mexico 437.8 Blue
Ohio 429.8 Red
California 421.5 Blue
Missouri 412.7 Red
Tennessee 409.3 Red
Virginia 396.1 Blue
Minnesota 390.8 Red
Colorado 373.9 Red/Blue
North Carolina 363.8 Red/Blue
New Hampshire 335.4 Green
South Dakota 325.5 Red
Washington 291 Blue
Idaho 285.7 Red
Kentucky 284 Red
Oklahoma 282.8 Red
Kansas 274.9 Red
Nebraska 272.4 Red
Wisconsin 259 Red
West Virginia 216.5 Redish
Montana 203 Red
Utah 162.8 Red
Oregon 143.4 Blue/Red
Hawaii 122.2 Blue
Maine 106.4 Indy
Wyoming 98.5 Red
Vermont 93 Green
Alaska 82 Red
4% of the world's population; over 20% of its deaths. You're right - it's an invidious comparison. With pretty much anywhere.
rekrunner wrote:
Allen53 wrote:
What about these long-term effects? What say you to this covid cultists?
Who are you talking too?
Liberals and democrats want everyone to listen to expert recommendations like from the WHO's special envoy, and avoid using lockdowns as a primary solution. They would prefer a pro-active central leadership that implements effective prevention.
Sweden, once they shored up their nursing home deaths, looks like a pretty good option now.
But this approach requires strong central guidance focused on people's health and the economy, and a population that plays along with the recommendations of their health experts, rather than protesting, finger pointing, playing the blame game, and spamming message boards, because solutions to contain a highly contagious disease only work when compliance is high.
Where is there evidence that strong recommendation s to the populations in the US would not work? Why do people assume Americans are unwilling to do the right thing when given the chance. Most in Blue states were not given a chance, they were forced, disenfranchised and angered. Lost of trust is what officials recommend is the problem; nobody is going to believe a politicians that obviously has a political agenda and is telling people they need to accept the loss of their livelihood for the greater good. If in the beginning there had just been strong warnings, strong recommendations, tax incentives for businesses to take good measures, and ZERO forced shutdowns and ZERO official government restrictions, the outcomes would have been far far better. That is where this country failed, and now it is too late because the people don't trust what the politicians say anymore. It is too late; people are going to die no matter what we do.
Armstronglivs wrote:
absurd really? wrote:
Are we really comparing New Zealand and the United States?
New Zealand is a small isolated island a thousand miles away from its closest neighbor with a population of five million people who has basically cut itself off from the rest of the world.
The United States is the third largest country in the world landmass wise with a population of 330 million people surrounded by countries many more times populated than New Zealand. Not to mention highly populated South and Central America right next door as well.
Such a useless comparison. You going to compare the United States & The Solomon Islands, which has a grand total of two COVID cases, next? How about we compare the US with Montserrat or Greenland?
4% of the world's population; over 20% of its deaths. You're right - it's an invidious comparison. With pretty much anywhere.
You mean 20% of the attributed deaths; likely 90% of the over-attributed deaths; your statistic is a useless one when you consider the insane political environment in the USA and denial that the political environment HAS inflamed and exaggerated this pandemic in the USA is delusional at best.
Armstronglivs wrote:
absurd really? wrote:
Are we really comparing New Zealand and the United States?
New Zealand is a small isolated island a thousand miles away from its closest neighbor with a population of five million people who has basically cut itself off from the rest of the world.
The United States is the third largest country in the world landmass wise with a population of 330 million people surrounded by countries many more times populated than New Zealand. Not to mention highly populated South and Central America right next door as well.
Such a useless comparison. You going to compare the United States & The Solomon Islands, which has a grand total of two COVID cases, next? How about we compare the US with Montserrat or Greenland?
4% of the world's population; over 20% of its deaths. You're right - it's an invidious comparison. With pretty much anywhere.
Sure. The US has not done a great job at containing COVID- although I would argue no similar country of the similar size & population has done great (Brazil, Russia, India, Mexico) Canada has done alright but it’s sparsely populated when compared to the US. Who the hell knows what China is doing/had to do to contain the virus.
But to hold up New Zealand as some model the US can follow is just absurd for all the reasons I stated. Might as well compare the US COVID situation to the COVID situation in the Solomon Islands or Fiji.