World Health Organization Appeals to World Leaders: STOP USING LOCKDOWNS- MAKES POOR PEOPLE POORER

I live in California.

Gruesome Newsom did make a state mandate, but a mandate is not law, and he does not have the authority to make laws. If the state did make such a law then it would be a totalitarian move and against the U.S. Constitution.

Costco's CEO has posted on their website that there are exemptions for people who don't wear a mask for health reasons, which includes you and me and everyone else who chooses not to wear one. Also, if they prevent you from shopping you can file a number of complaints against them.

I was concerned at first about shopping with no mask especially because everyone else was wearing one, but quickly realized that most of those people didn't want to wear one either!

The most draconian place in this town is trader joe's. The last time I was there the manager came out and tried to discuss the issues with me for 10 to 15 minutes, while I kept reciting the codes and laws he'd be breaking by refusing to let me shop there. As a crowd was growing around us, he finally waved me into the store. I haven't been back there since, because they are absolutely bonkers inside, spraying everything with toxic hand sanitizer including the carts and the food! My friend observed them spraying and saturating their pumpkins with their toxic hand sanitizer! I won't ever shop there again unless and until they come to their senses.

Gyms are public accommodations, and they're breaking the law by refusing service and discriminating against people who won't wear a mask.

dunes runner wrote:

appleswan wrote:

It's not about trust, it's about passing a discerning eye over everything you see.

Well that's good, but you're getting your information from sources, so you're not using that discerning eye.

I have no idea who Tony Young is and don't care. However, I do know who Joe Biden is and what his policies are.

appleswan wrote:

It's clear you have no idea what to think and have rejected everything.

Oh I know what to think and I do. I believe in the truth, which is very important to me.

Therefore, I reject anything that doesn't make any sense, and even more, anything which isn't the truth.

So you don't talk to anyone else, read any books or journals, or learn any history? How can we be sure WWI happened? None of us saw it with our own eyes.

We learn from each other but need to acknowledge the perspective each of our accounts come from. The alternative is to be isolated and disconnected from reality, a prisoner.

The COVID-19 pandemic has devastated economics in the West, but the harshest impacts may yet be felt in the developing world. After decades of improvement in poorer countries, a regression threatens that could usher in, both economically and politically, a neo-feudal future, leaving billions stranded permanently in poverty. If this threat is not addressed, these conditions could threaten not just the world economy, but prospects for democracy worldwide.

In its most recent analysis, the World Bank predicted that the global economy will shrink by 5.2 percent in 2020, with developing countries overall seeing their incomes fall for the first time in 60 years. The United Nations predicts that the pandemic recession could plunge as many as 420 million people into extreme poverty, defined as earning less than $2 a day. The disruption will be particularly notable in the poorest countries. The UN has forecast that Africa could have 30 million more people in poverty. A study by the International Growth Centre spoke of “staggering” implications with 9.1 percent of the population descending into extreme poverty as savings are drained, with two-thirds of this due to lockdown. The loss of remittances has cost developing economies billions more income.

Latin America had seen its poverty rate drop from 45 to 30 percent over the past two decades, but now nearly 45 million, according to the UN, are being plunged into destitution as a result of the novel coronavirus pandemic. In Mexico alone, COVID-19 has caused at least 16 million more people to fall into extreme poverty, according to a study by the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM).

https://quillette.com/2020/10/19/the-coming-post-covid-global-order/

A nation consumed in fear wrote:

Costcos here won't let you in without a mask (they'll pursue trespassing charges if you refuse to leave).

Do a search for "costco ceo corona."

This requirement does not apply to children under the age of 2 or to individuals who are unable to wear a face covering due to a medical condition.

A medical condition is a health condition. Wearing a mask affects the air exchange in an extremely negative manner, which affects the health condition, for me, you, and for everyone if and when they are wearing a mask. You don't have to tell them that, and they don't have the right to ask you what the health condition is, because that's your private information.

I just tell them that I don't wear a mask because it affects my breathing, and they wave me right in. At Walmart they used to have someone at the door and they'd ask me twice, so I'd tell them I don't wear a mask for health reasons, due to a health condition, and they waved me right in.

That manager at Trader Joes kept saying well he understood but he'd "prefer" that I'd not go in, so I'd answer him and say, may I do in now, and he'd almost let me in but say the prefer thing again, we'd discuss it and finally he said "go ahead." After that I decided that I didn't want to shop there anymore, but Costco, Lowes, Walmart, and my bank have been fine.

appleswan wrote:

So you don't talk to anyone else, read any books or journals, or learn any history? How can we be sure WWI happened? None of us saw it with our own eyes.

Sure, I talk with people, but not usually to people who've been brainwashed. I read a lot when growing up, and medical journals quite a but at the University, not much since then and since the internet started it's been my main source of information.

I never was fond of history, and especially since now we know how much it's been perverted by negative U.S. and/or oligarch perspectives.

appleswan wrote:We learn from each other but need to acknowledge the perspective each of our accounts come from. The alternative is to be isolated and disconnected from reality, a prisoner.

Yes, and in that regard I never watch the mainstream news and have pretty much never watched it because of how often it's so disconnected from reality, and being brainwashed is a disconnect from reality. My dad used to blast out the news all the time, and I always hated it, so I'd lock myself in my room or else leave and go somewhere else.

Way to stick it to the guy probably barely making a living wage! You’ve never worked in the service industry have you?

In America you can ban anyone from your property for essentially any reason! USA USA USA!

Costco making exemptions for children and low IQ shoppers is mere generosity on their part.

Businesses are public accommodations and as such are not allowed to discriminate against people with health conditions, and people who do not wish to restrict their breathing and get sick.

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Business, due to being public accommodations, must also abide by Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

WRONG. Do you know what "reasonable accommodation" means. You cannot force someone to bake the cake, bro. You are the enemy of FREEDOM in this great country!!!

dunes runner wrote:

Businesses are public accommodations and as such are not allowed to discriminate against people with health conditions, and people who do not wish to restrict their breathing and get sick.

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Business, due to being public accommodations, must also abide by Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

Yes I certainly do, and I know what freedom is too, which you don't.

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Freedom means you can shop without being discriminated against, because you're the wrong ethnicity, because you're not white as snow, because you're not wearing a sheet, because you're not wearing a mask or a diaper on your face, because you don't believe in a fairy tale that's not real and that doesn't exist, or simply because you don't want your breathing to be restricted while you're shopping.

Another example of what the sociopaths support:

https://twitter.com/mmjblair/status/1302314517934866439

That's exactly what you're trying to do, so you must have meant to respond to yourself.

Years of life lost due to the psychosocial consequences of COVID19 mitigation strategies based on Swiss data:

We stipulated a minimum duration of mitigation of 3 months based on current public health plans. Results: The study projects that the average person would suffer 0.205 YLL due to psychosocial consequence of COVID-19 mitigation measures. However, this loss would be entirely borne by 2.1% of the population, who will suffer an average 9.79 YLL.

Conclusions: The results presented here are likely to underestimate the true impact of the mitigation strategies on YLL. However, they highlight the need for public health models to expand their scope in order to provide better estimates of the risks and benefits of mitigation.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20069716v3

The pro-lockdown psychopaths all sing from the same hymn sheet. The most recent talking point against the rational voices pimp the fear of "long covid". The frightening boogyman to keep us all in fear. Did you know that there are long term widespread and severe long term effects of lockdowns which are conveniently ignored by the "long covid" crowd. I'll list a few. Feel free to add your own.

On Life Expectancy even conservative estimates show we’ve lost 100X more in years of those impacted by lockdown and reduced life expectancy than years lost of those who died before their time of C19 (some estimate1000X).

Increased TB spread

Increased TB deaths

Increased long "TB"

Increased measles

Increased cancer suffering

Increased cancer deaths

Increased poor diabetic outcomes

Increased heart disease

Increased depression

Increased suicide

Increased hunger

Increased child mortality

Increased substance abuse

Increased poverty

Increased gender based violence

Decreased levels of education

Increased inequality

Decreased life expectancies

Increased HIV deaths

Hahaha they deleted my comment calling you a whiny liberal!! LRC is a bit soft these days. The business owner's private property rights trump your needs to enforce your lifestyle on them. There is no constitutional right to shop at a big box store... get over yourself. Let's grant you your authoritarian fantasy for a moment and image that your unverified "medical condition" meant your "lifestyle" was wholly protected under the ADA - sorry bro - with curbside pickup, delivery, Amazon, etc. - the questionable "reason accommodation" standard of the ADA would still not does not grant you the right to trespass on the business owners property. Stop trying to turn the grand old USA into the EU.

dunes runner wrote:

That's exactly what you're trying to do, so you must have meant to respond to yourself.

I don't know, but I imagine it makes you feel terrible.

Apparently that hurt your feelings and caused you to whine even more.

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I have never claimed anything under the ADA, so you're consistently wrong again.

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Suffice it to say that the box stores know the rules, regulations, and the Constitution of the United States much better than you do.

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You're welcome to go and argue with them if you want, because I don't care what you think.

I wonder where all those people will go? I guess here to the US? We might have lost 1 out of a 1,000 people by then.