Sweden wow do very good

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Down to pretty much zero per day for the past three months in this nation of over 10 million people.

The Unkle wrote:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Toggle down to the daily deaths.

Down to pretty much zero per day for the past three months in this nation of over 10 million people.

The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.

KaareV wrote:

The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.

We don't know that yet. Cases with the Norse & Danes are going up. The Finns just had their highest single day positives of 600+ - three times the highest single day number back in April. Sweden has hardly anyone hospitalized for Covid. Sweden has developed some level of T cell herd immunity. I anticipate their hospitalizations will stay low during this second or whatever wave is supposed to be happening in Europe right now. And if hospitalizations followed by deaths significantly increase with the Norse, Danes & Finns, then we'll know their wonderful lockdowns that you obviously endorse didn't do anything for herd immunity.

Furthermore, the vast majority of Sweden's deaths occurred in elderly care centers - where they failed miserably at protecting the most vulnerable. However, no one under 50 died of Covid and hospitalizations were very low with the younger demographics.

In terms of comparing Sweden to other countries in the EU they shined. Their deaths per million are significantly lower than those of Belgium, Spain, Italy & their closer neighbor - the UK. Sweden's economy fared fare better than over half of the countries in the EU. And the benefit Sweden got from not implemented a hard lockdown is their overdoses, heart attacks, suicides, etc., didn't spike like many other countries experienced during their lockdowns. And currently the UK, Spain, Italy & France are all blowing up like crazy despite those drocacian lockdowns that were supposed to solve the problem. Lol. (when you don't have the young & healthy exposed to the virus, you don't develop immunity...simple).

The funniest thing of all is the Imperial College of London (i.e. fearmongering) predicted last spring that if Sweden didn't implement a hard lockdown they would suffer 96,000 deaths by July 1. Well...that prediction is about 90,000 deaths short. Lol.

Swedes still had lockdown. A load of stuff was banned. Places that didn't enforce social distancing were shut down.

I'm bored of people thinking Sweden just sat back and let it run through the population.

They just weren't as strict as Denmark.

And actually given their population actually used common sense, social distancing was actually higher than in say the UK, where the rules were not enforced at all and, and thus there were loads of close gatherings including a house parties of 58 people (!)

Anyway. Its too early to tell if a slightly less strict lockdown was better. Right now its not looking good - even with a reduced second wave (you can only die once) they still lead the death charts - but we will see over the next 6 months

No...they did not have a lockdown. All they really did was cap gatherings at 50, close high schools & colleges & museums. Gyms, restaurants, cafes, nightclubs, movie theaters, sports practices and K-8 all remained opened. That's far from a "lockdown." Contrast that with the BS that occurred in my state: Gyms, rec centers, schools, movie theaters, cafes, nightclubs, playgrounds, restaurants (except curbside service) all closed down compliments of a fearmongering Leftist governor!

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/it-s-been-so-so-surreal-critics-sweden-s-lax-pandemic-policies-face-fierce-backlash

☝️The other thing you're forgetting to mention is that Sweden isn't wearing masks! And you can't develope immunity if your people are all masked up like bandits!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-sweden-bucks-trend-masks.amp

KaareV wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Toggle down to the daily deaths.

Down to pretty much zero per day for the past three months in this nation of over 10 million people.

The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.

Two deaths per day in Sweden the past few months from Covid, a nation of 10 million plus people. Without lockdowns. Spin away as much as you can but it worked.

Agree. Imperial College, has been falsified to a astromical degree. The commentary in Washington Examiner is easy to falsifiy, too. And so are you when you claim that Finland has had 600+ in one day, never over 300. But Sweden over 800 some days ago. You also write that the death rate in Sweden is significantly lower than the other worst hit countries. Italy 600 per million, Sweden 583 as of yesterday. Spain 710, UK, which by the way locked down far too late, 633. You forgot Germany 116. And it is not true that Norway has a spike as high as Sweden, far from it. The T-cell theory, it is tecnologically complicated to verify, but the Swedes will come with a result a month or two from now. There is no herd immunity in Sweden. In Sweden 45 under 50 has died. Falsified again. Most in intensive care, agegroup 60-69 2) 50-59 3) 70-79. Yesterday 6 deaths in Sweden, today 8 and 678 Covid +. Norway 1 death the last week. If you get your numbers straight it would be a much more interesting discussion. Though, I agree. It aint over yet. But as of today Sweden has failed in this Nordic context. But what tomorrow will bring we do'nt know.

The Unkle wrote:

KaareV wrote:

The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.

Two deaths per day in Sweden the past few months from Covid, a nation of 10 million plus people. Without lockdowns. Spin away as much as you can but it worked.

Sweden had a lockdown too, but not a hard noe. I am comparing Sweden with the neighbors. Is that a spin? BTW, 6 new deaths yesterday, today 8. You just say that the Swedish strategy worked, over and over again. Deaths per million in Europe, population over 1 million: 1)Belgium 883 deaths per million 2) Spain 710 3) UK 633 4) Italy 600 5) Sweden 583 6) France 504 .... 20) Germany 116. And the other Nordic countries 20) Denmark 116 30) Finland 63 31) Norway 51.

KaareV wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Two deaths per day in Sweden the past few months from Covid, a nation of 10 million plus people. Without lockdowns. Spin away as much as you can but it worked.

Sweden had a lockdown too, but not a hard noe. I am comparing Sweden with the neighbors. Is that a spin? BTW, 6 new deaths yesterday, today 8. You just say that the Swedish strategy worked, over and over again. Deaths per million in Europe, population over 1 million: 1)Belgium 883 deaths per million 2) Spain 710 3) UK 633 4) Italy 600 5) Sweden 583 6) France 504 .... 20) Germany 116. And the other Nordic countries 20) Denmark 116 30) Finland 63 31) Norway 51.

They may have slightly more or slightly fewer deaths than other places, but ultimately, who cares? Overall deaths are low everywhere, especially among the non-elderly. Tiny risk vs. tinier risk.

Let people free.

The Unkle wrote:

KaareV wrote:

The last three months in Sweden 222 deaths. And it is quite right. Gone in the right direction. The other Nordic countries, more or less half the population, And approx the same social structure. Norway 24 deaths in the same periode, 277 deaths all together- Sweden 5899. Denmark - 59 -669, Finland 18- 346. And Norway, it might be counterintuitive to some people, has not suffered more economically. Actually better when it comes to employment. And now the infection rate is much higher in Sweden. The Swedish experiment has failed dramatically in the nordic context.

Two deaths per day in Sweden the past few months from Covid, a nation of 10 million plus people. Without lockdowns. Spin away as much as you can but it worked.

If they had just killed everyone over 70 in January they wouldn’t be having hardly any COVID deaths now. That would have been a real success!

Yes...there is some degree of herd immunity in Sweden. You don't understand the science behind T cell immunity. When exposed to coronaviruses you develope T cell immunity which can last for years. You can still get re-infected but the person will be asymptomatic or experience very mild symptoms. So, don't fall for this MSM fearmongering compaign that there's no natural immunity against this virus.

Once again with the death rates in Sweden; 90% of the deceased were over the age of 70, with the majority of those having pre-existing conditions. No one under 50 died.

☝️Check out this recent report from Sweden by NBC. ICU beds are desolate. No serious cases in the hospitals to report. People out & about without those dreaded face coverings. People sitting in close proximity to each other on their urban trains. Paradise - not like this MSM driven - panic stricken, hysterical, nerved up, paranoid Americans!

And then there is Japan: heavily urban, older population, no lockdown, 13 deaths per million.

At least. You are immune. To facts. Even from the Swedish Health Autorities;

You write again. No one under 50 has died. But my source is the Swedes themselves. According to them: 45. But you may have other sources or you may just be a believer. To day, as we "speak" the Swedes are considering new restrictions because of the worriesome rise of infections. I do'nt understand the science behind T-cell immunity??? Actually, I do. And there is an ongoing discussion whether they have reached T-cell Mediated Immunity. Nor you, nor I, and not they can conclude.

You are right. Close to 90 percent over 70 has died. And most of them with preexisting conditions. But most people over 70 has preexisting conditions, so that tells us nothing. And now the Swedes i.e. The Health Autorities are worried bevause there is a risk that the virus , again, is spreading into the nursing homes.

You are using tools from the propaganda tool box. MSM or not. There is a standard. Be critical. But you are not. You are just counter critical. Where I live we do not wear masks, only on the subway and trains, that might be the reason, not the only reason, why we have managed this so much better than the Swedes. We locked down hard. But not all the shops. I went to the grocery from day one. There were more restrictions in Sweden for people over 70. After a short while, the hairdressers opened, no maskwearing etc. etc. But in US the virus was and is not under controll, extremely badly managed by this Trumpfellow. Now worse than Sweden. So you ought to wear masks, not we. We do not fear to go to restaurants without masks. But we are disiplined, because my freedom ends where it might disturbe my neighbors freedom, like real conservatives are.

YMMV wrote:

And then there is Japan: heavily urban, older population, no lockdown, 13 deaths per million.

When you have neighborhood vigilante harassing the people who do not observe social distancing, you don't need lockdowns. They "regulate" themselves.

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]Precious Roy wrote:

[quote]YMMV wrote:

The economy in Sweden has been badly damaged due to the pandemic and fared no better than their neighbors.

Horseapples

This narrative that a nation that did not lockdown its businesses is somehow doing no better than those that did is laughable.

Yet you guys dutifully repeat this nonsense

You don't need a narrative when you have facts.

Few respect sweden anymore. Their percentage of deaths from nursing homes compared to outside institutions were not higher than in Norway, but they have had many more deaths. Noone dear say load they like the swedish way of handing the virud

Even fewer respect those who still cling to the fakenews cases and death counts provided to you by globalists via faulty testing.

FinnJ wrote:

Few respect sweden anymore.

Huh? This is the NYTimes, from a week ago. They are loathe to admit it, but everyone is doing the Sweden now:

“Today, all of the European countries are more or less following the Swedish model, combined with the testing, tracing and quarantine procedures the Germans have introduced, but none will admit it,” said Antoine Flahault, director of the Institute of Global Health, in Geneva. “Instead, they made a caricature out of the Swedish strategy. Almost everyone has called it inhumane and a failure.”

Precious Roy wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]Precious Roy wrote:

[quote]YMMV wrote:

The economy in Sweden has been badly damaged due to the pandemic and fared no better than their neighbors.

Horseapples

This narrative that a nation that did not lockdown its businesses is somehow doing no better than those that did is laughable.

Yet you guys dutifully repeat this nonsense

You don't need a narrative when you have facts.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-sweden-gdp-falls-8pc-in-q2-worse-nordic-neighbors-2020-8

Posting the official narrative proves nothing.

It is nonsensical to think that a nation that kept its businesses open fared worse than those that locked theirs done