Sweden wow do very good

world snake oil salesman wrote:

Yeah baby. Keep that globalist fake news shyt alive!! Keep up the good work as a Gates and Fauci sockpuppet.

Never mind those that are "positive" means nothing since it is a useless test. Never mind the "covid deaths" are meaningless as a result. Never mind there's no actual pandemic.

As the classic saying goes, there's a sucker born every minute..

Note how when the media goes on and on about positive tests, they never mention how many people are actually sick.

123 5 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

That is what you all were saying in June about the rising number of cases in the US. Outbreak in Sweden is just starting. Deaths lag positives by about 3-4 weeks. When will dummy learn.

According to you, murdering fear mongers, the death numbers always lag 3-4 weeks behind. You were saying the same 3-4 weeks ago.

Guess what? I have family in Sweden and I get real numbers, in real time. You choosing not to believe them doesn't make them any less real.

Oh, and I said nothing about the cases in the US. I don't believe the panic-inducing numbers your ilk spew to scare people.

I bet you have a great house, a good family and a nice job, and that's why you don't care if others die, lose their livelihood, relapse into addictions, etc.

It is very easy to get the real numbers in real time. So in Sweden the cases of Covid-19 are rising. And the Swedish experiement has caused to many deaths, and the unemployment ,,, your Swedish family can explain that too. The early lockdown in Norway , 276 deaths compared to nearly 5900 in Sweden. The economy is better in Norway, even fewer suicdes than last year.

How many deaths in the last days in Sweden?

We are talking about the present.

5900? 276? Why do you continue to use those numbers when it is common knowledge that it is completely wrong?

You're just making yourself look foolish. Everything you say at this point is to be taken as made up conspiracy theory.

Precious Roy wrote:

123 5 wrote:

How many dead?

That is what you all were saying in June about the rising number of cases in the US. Outbreak in Sweden is just starting. Deaths lag positives by about 3-4 weeks. When will dummy learn.

Roy you are a sociopath. You realize this don't you?

You are quite interested in seeing death and would cheer lead this- I have no doubt- like some twisted celebration of death and misery. You are a deeply disturbed human being.

Let us keep this comment- if Sweden doesn't have that mass death event that you so richly wish for will you admit how wrong you are on everything- or will you go all Neil Ferguson on us and ignore reality in favor of your never-ending dismal models of doom and gloom.

ER Doctor from Sweden Explains it all - the Science, Logic & Philosophy

This will explain quite a bit though the doomers will plug their ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IeN6sgJ3g&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=IvorCummins

I want my freedom back too but 1/3 of the US is obese so unfortunately it’s become everyone’s problem. Not all fat people can or will stay home. And when fat/old/unhealthy clog up the ICU languishing on a vent for 5 weeks, other patients will suffer.

It’s no surprise that poor/minorities are mostly dying in the US of COVId, they’re much more likely to be morbidly obese, have diabetes etc. obviously there are other issues for the poor like crowded housing, inability to socially isolate, and their jobs as essential workers. However we’re doing these people a disservice but ignoring the glaring health problems associated w poverty and lack of education and instead blaming the govt and hospitals when they die.

Smaller healthier countries (Scandinavia) can get away with a lot more than we can.

crazy blah blah blah wrote:

KaareV wrote:

It is very easy to get the real numbers in real time. So in Sweden the cases of Covid-19 are rising. And the Swedish experiement has caused to many deaths, and the unemployment ,,, your Swedish family can explain that too. The early lockdown in Norway , 276 deaths compared to nearly 5900 in Sweden. The economy is better in Norway, even fewer suicdes than last year.

5900? 276? Why do you continue to use those numbers when it is common knowledge that it is completely wrong?

You're just making yourself look foolish. Everything you say at this point is to be taken as made up conspiracy theory.

What? Conspiracy theory? Inform and educate yourself. "Common knowledge" ??? Please, it is the numbers from The Swedish Health Authorites.also named Folkhälsan. From the man in charge, Anders Tegnell. And at Worldometer. And in Norway the same, Norwegian Institute of Public Health;

, their english website, since you obviously can't read Norwegian or Swedish. But may be the Health Authorities in both countries are part of a big coverup and conspiracy??? May be you yourself is mislead of a conspiracy theory? But that aside, some documentation from your side. I know you can never come up with it. Today, in real time, you will get the new numbers from Sweden, at 2 o'clock GMT. They update the numbers four times a week. By now, the numbers in Sweden 5894 deaths, and 98451 infected. In Norway, updated right now 15639 infected, 115 new cases the last 24 hours, and still 276 deaths. That is the numbers from the BIG nordic coverup . But you can just repeat that I am making myself "look foolish". By the way, in 1986 Allan Bloom wrote the book: The Closing of The American Mind". Read it? Best regards KaareV, Oslo, Norway.

Allen53 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

That is what you all were saying in June about the rising number of cases in the US. Outbreak in Sweden is just starting. Deaths lag positives by about 3-4 weeks. When will dummy learn.

Roy you are a sociopath. You realize this don't you?

You are quite interested in seeing death and would cheer lead this- I have no doubt- like some twisted celebration of death and misery. You are a deeply disturbed human being.

Let us keep this comment- if Sweden doesn't have that mass death event that you so richly wish for will you admit how wrong you are on everything- or will you go all Neil Ferguson on us and ignore reality in favor of your never-ending dismal models of doom and gloom.

Neil Ferguson? He's a fraud! He's the one that initiated the panic & hysteria with his phony predictions where the heads of states bought into it! He's stated that if Sweden didn't implement a hard-style lockdown in the spring they would suffer 96,000 deaths by July 1. He's about 90,000 short! A sad state of affairs that the U.S. & UK were dumb enough to fall for his fraudulent predictions putting us into this current mess!

Opps... Ferguson didn't think he'd caught! ?

Norway and Sweden essentially have the same mortality rate right now (~1/mllion pop). Sweden, when considering it's older population, higher percentage of indigent migrants, and the nursing home gaffe, is otherwise similar to other Nordics, except now have certainly achieved herd immunity with little economic detriment, whereas the others are in doubt.

YMMV wrote:

Norway and Sweden essentially have the same mortality rate right now (~1/mllion pop). Sweden, when considering it's older population, higher percentage of indigent migrants, and the nursing home gaffe, is otherwise similar to other Nordics, except now have certainly achieved herd immunity with little economic detriment, whereas the others are in doubt.

The economy in Sweden has been badly damaged due to the pandemic and fared no better than their neighbors. There are new travel bans in place from other countries because of the growing outbreak in Sweden. If "herd immunity" means that you can go from a 7 day moving average of about 150 cases to over 500 cases a day and climbing rapidly, then herd immunity is completely useless.

Allen53 wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

That is what you all were saying in June about the rising number of cases in the US. Outbreak in Sweden is just starting. Deaths lag positives by about 3-4 weeks. When will dummy learn.

Roy you are a sociopath. You realize this don't you?

You are quite interested in seeing death and would cheer lead this- I have no doubt- like some twisted celebration of death and misery. You are a deeply disturbed human being.

Let us keep this comment- if Sweden doesn't have that mass death event that you so richly wish for will you admit how wrong you are on everything- or will you go all Neil Ferguson on us and ignore reality in favor of your never-ending dismal models of doom and gloom.

I know it is frustrating to have your COVID denier posts dismantled by me on a daily basis. I actually feel sorry for you and anyone who is tricked by you.

Sweden, like much of the rest of the modern industrialized world, will have much improved outcomes for acute COVID cases. Rate of death in the US is down to 1/4th of what it was when this all started due to the incredible work the intensivists have done to improve care. But saving all those lives does not mean that people aren't suffering. What is really sick is the requirement of death by COVID deniers is the complete dismissal of all the people suffering for months with chronic fatigue, breathing problems and cognitive issues, as well as all the people who end up in the hospital with a sever case but survive. To only be concerned if these people die is pathological.

And I was just responding to the COVID denier misinformation that asserts that an outbreak is nothing to worry about as long as there isn't an immediate death toll. That is like saying a forest fire is nothing to worry about as long as no houses have burned down. If you ignore the forest fire, it spreads out of control and will eventually burn houses down. If you ignore a COVID outbreak, eventually it will spread and people will die. That is exactly what we saw in May and June in the US and people have the gall to repeat the lie as it happens again this fall.

right on wrote:

Masks DO NOT save lives.

You cannot show me one person whose life has been saved due to others wearing masks around said person.

Not one.

Dumbest post on here. And there are some winners on LR to be sure.

You don't get how making stupid statements work. The burden in on YOU to show / prove your stance. You can't make a dumb statement, that ask others to prove that your dumb statement is false. That's 2 levels of dumb.

If you believe they don't save lives, then YOU prove it.

The Unkle wrote:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-better-sweden-does-on-the-coronavirus-the-angrier-they-get?fbclid=IwAR27VeVLJ3kz8ZGm2aTDP1hn6fuWOt3hEih_EVkf8HGViHdp13UnZKJXU3c

Hello Unkle, you again. There is a lot of cherry picking and a lot of picking not even cherries in this "commentary". Using the great philosopher of science Karl Popper, or misusing? Well, let's use his falsification criterion. The author writes that infection rates are rising faster in the rest of Scandinavia. Falsified, not true. Today the Swedish health authorities are considering new restrictions because of the sharp rise. For the last 14 days mush higher infection rate than Finland and Norway. So Danske Bank predictions for economic growth. There are others, but this is most favorable to Sweden, but with minor differences to Norway. But this is not journalism, it's cherry picking. Many other forecasts does'nt give Sweden the most favorable position in Scandinavia. But the commentary does'nt makethe most natural comparition, to compare Sweden with the other nordic countries. But, since the commentator is selecetive, let's see what Danske Bank said, that despite of the other countries har lockdowns: "You'd expect Swedens economic performance to be way better, but in reality what we see is that the Swedish economic performance is very close to what we see in the other Nordic countries". I could go on and on, but this piece of "journalism" is close to propaganda. Swedish lives thrown out of the window. For what???

Allen53 wrote:

Alpina wrote:

Masks are the band-aid on the societal cancer of crappy diet and lifestyle. Addressing the root problem would ensure whoever suggesting it gets booted or bullied out.

The US Medical Industry hates your advice- there's no money in what you suggest.

I know some people make money from selling masks or hand sanitizer. But can you enlighten us on who is making money from social distancing?

YMMV wrote:

Norway and Sweden essentially have the same mortality rate right now (~1/mllion pop).

More than 10x as many Swedes per capita have died from COVID-19 than Norwegians. Merely looking at the current deaths and ignoring the totals is absurd.

I know some people make money from selling masks or hand sanitizer. But can you enlighten us on who is making money from social distancing?

Practically every single tech company. Nasdaq up close to 20% from pre-COVID highs.

Pharma about to have a brand new cash cow as well.

Why are you so upset that I'm correcting you because you're being misled? I'm just trying to help you, and help the rest of the world. Yes, the false positives from that PCR test has been common knowledge for months. It's also been pretty common knowledge that Sweden and Norway have been counting deaths differently. How can you possibly not know this?

Here it is even from one of your favorite papers in black and white..

"In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found."

Just to make it clear to you again: The case numbers and death numbers due to covid are absolute garbage and if you continue to use those numbers you are being deliberately dishonest and negligent. Just trying to help you here before you dig yourself into a bigger hole.