Julien Wanders Workout Warrior

Pikachu wrote:

It is like you told - as an outsider - Mark Nenow to run less miles or to chill on his runs.

Nice pull. Wanders obviously needs to drink more Dr. Pepper.

try swallowing a bag of cement and hardening up like JW

LOL of course you LRC libs would prefer if J. Wanders was coached by Tianman. I personally can't stand Tinman. How many olympic gold medalists has Tinman produced?

The red wave is coming, enjoy your loss in November.

Can't Stand Tinman wrote:

LOL of course you LRC libs would prefer if J. Wanders was coached by Tianman. I personally can't stand Tinman. How many olympic gold medalists has Tinman produced?

The red wave is coming, enjoy your loss in November.

Same question to you.How many Olympic gold medalists has JW's coach produced?

I don't even know who it is, the only I know is that he is far from the best coaches in the world

out from what he prescribes for JW.

Impala31 wrote:

This guy must be allergic to tartan, mondo or something.

Hard to believe he runs so poorly on tracks compares to roads. Yes he is a slow twich guy but still.

Something I have wondered in the past and I think may be rooted in some sort of truth is that Europeans aren’t as used to running on the track as Americans (on average). Rather than having school sports with track starting early, they have club sports and may not have as much exposure or focus more on the roads from an earlier age. Curious if anyone else has thought about this.

Dromano19 wrote:

Impala31 wrote:

This guy must be allergic to tartan, mondo or something.

Hard to believe he runs so poorly on tracks compares to roads. Yes he is a slow twich guy but still.

Something I have wondered in the past and I think may be rooted in some sort of truth is that Europeans aren’t as used to running on the track as Americans (on average). Rather than having school sports with track starting early, they have club sports and may not have as much exposure or focus more on the roads from an earlier age. Curious if anyone else has thought about this.

In most European countries running is organized in clubs and young runners in most cases are brought up at the track, so in that way the European youngsters are equal to the Americans and have the same seasons with outdoor track in spring/summer and cross-country in the fall and indoor track in wintertime. The only difference may be that high school and college/university runners will do a lot more races during the track season.

SY - XC is a late fall/winter sport in Europe - why the world XC champs are always in the spring (generally late march). You must be american to think otherwise. Indoor is a recent thing (last 40 years or so) in much of europe because of that fact.

I personally still don't see the value of indoor track for distance development or even mid-distance. I cringe when I see indoor results exceed outdoor performances (even with the newer bouncy indoor tracks).

Wanders is a typical strava workout warrior!

You bumped a 2 year old thread just to say that?

I have wrote about Julian Wonders before on a different thread a few months ago.My sentiments were exactly the same on this matter.I think Renato is a brilliant coach but he has been overtraining his athletes for many years .Many of his star athletes burned out after just a few seasons I.e the likes of Moses Mosop, Shami,Florence Kiplagat,Shaheen etc.Julian is showing signs of burn out.

I guess we will see his shape on Sunday in Valencia

You have no idea what you are talking about, JS. You don't even know about Shaheen's injury.

I know about Shaheen's knee injury .I know many of those athletes very well both present and past in the training group based in Iten.In fact Abel Kirui was lucky to escape and join Patrick Sang's group otherwise he would be toast by now too.

And yes I am JS !! I am jealous of Canova`s success and I wish i could coach Wanders to perfect results with my magic DANCAN system .

Didn't he have a bad stress fracture? Is he OK now?

Hahaha! Well, I could easily have reported your post for impersonating me, but instead I will use it to make it clear how I see the great lifetime work done by the legend coach Canova. It's of course no doubt Canova is one of the great coaches in running history.I salute you Renato! ( don't know if Renato reads LRC any more , I think he has retired? ).I'm not jealous of Renato. And his coaching of Wanders was not easy when the runner had underlining injuries popped up due to strange/ questionable training before Renato.

COACH J.S 🇸🇪🧙‍♂️