Doctors are the single most ineffective profession in the modern world

How about baseball players ? If they hit the ball only a 3rd of the time, they will be considered worthy of the Hall of Fame.

MelRnr wrote:

As others pointed out, lawyers can't possibly always get the best outcome for their clients, because one side has to lose the case if the other side wins.

I don’t think you understand the practice of law.

The vast majority of cases are settled, and do not proceed to a “winner-take-all” type of conclusion as you suggest.

Further, you ignore the doctrine of efficient breach, and other constructs relevant to the practice of law.

Every profession has its good people, and its morons. Doctors are no different in that respect. It is up to the patient to discern which is which.

Other worthless professions:

1). Cops. The sooner they’re gone, the better.

2) Teachers. Lazy slugs.

We have to go back to 1910 Flexner Report written by Abe Flexner. To summarize, Flexner concluded there were too many medical schools and too many medical doctors in U.S. This was only 45 years after conclusion of U.S. Civil War. If one reads between the lines, Flexner believed there were too many Black medical doctors in U.S. Since White doctors did not want to treat Black patients in that era, and since majority White medical schools would not allow Black medical students, the closing of most majority Black medical schools was catastrophic to U.S. Blacks. A.M.A. were puppet masters behind the scene in 1910. Closing of medical schools allowed graduates of medical schools to earn more money.

1935, The Kingfish, Governor Huey Long intended to run for U.S. President, to the left of F.D.R. Huey Long was campaigning on a platform of universal government sponsored healthcare for all. How convenient for healthcare status quo, a medical doctor assassinated Long, 1935.

In response to socialized medicine in western hemisphere, U.S. government responded with Medicare & Medicaid, 1960s. A bizarre quirk occurred. Doctors, it was decided by Medicare & Medicaid Rules & Regulations would not be compensated per outcome or patient satisfaction ratings. Doctors, it was determined would be compensated per procedure. Non-surgeon medical doctors often do not and did not do procedures so general practitioners are and were paid the least. Medical doctors paid the most are: Dermatologists & Ophthalmologists. Dermatologists remove moles frequently. Ophthalmologists remove cataracts frequently.

Too many U.S. citizens have been brainwashed into thinking U.S. medical doctors are superior doctors in comparison to European medical doctors simply because Europe does not have too many dermatologists or ophthalmologists who earn over one million per year. I am convinced with government sponsored single payer healthcare for all with medical doctors getting 100% of their education paid for by U.S. government, we would have better healthcare outcomes. U.S. model is awful except for the stated dermatologists and ophthalmologists. U.S. has the highest paid doctors in the world but U.S. healthcare for those with lowest 50% income and lowest 50% net worth, awful healthcare outcomes. Changes need to occur.

Teachers are the most incompetent and overpaid profession.

College professors are ok. The rest of you need a real job. Get back to work fatties! Haha

A lot of guys here clearly scorn getting medical help when they need it. Good luck with your herbs and mud packs. The Stone Age would have been such a great time to be alive. Even if it was "nasty, brutal and short" (Hobbes).

Free_the_thigh wrote:

Lol you have clearly not dealt with enough lawyers.

Or bought a car at a lot

Ganbatte wrote:

I agree with parts of this post. The number of times I went to an athletic trainer or physical therapist and they diagnosed pain in my knee, foot, calf, ankle being caused by weak hips and gave me a bunch of generic exercises to do is too much to count. I've had athletic trainers telling me that I should stretch for 20 minutes 3 times a day!

Physical therapists go through all this school to get their PHD and then they just hand out generic exercises and watch me do them?!? Most of the people on here could give me the same exercises but they don't need to be paid $70 an hour. Never going to a physical therapist for a running-related injury ever again.

PT here so of course I need to chime in!

What exactly were you looking for then? Most running injuries are caused by muscle imbalances and weakness.

Thinking you’ll go I for a massage or electrical stimulation is not going to fix the underlying cause. While I do believe not everyone needs or gets the same exercises (definitely don’t just give generic exercises- they are tailored to each individual person’s impairments), not anyone can just give those exercises.

Part of doing them correctly is making sure you are activating the right muscles and not compensating, and the average joe off the street would most likely not be able to pick up on that.

Armstronglivs wrote:

The Stone Age would have been such a great time to be alive.

Mechanic looks at your car, easy to see what's wrong, replaces a part you could have done yourself, and adds some more stuff that he hasn't done to the bill.

You go to the doctor, have an infected lung...yeah, same thing hey, he gets out his high pressure washer, blows the crap out, puts some new tubing in and you run out there feeling fit.

Can see the similarity

Have you realised that doctors are there to offer palliative care for the damage you have , and will continue to do, to your body, and that your recovery rests as much on your actions than theirs?

Ganbatte wrote:

I agree with parts of this post. The number of times I went to an athletic trainer or physical therapist and they diagnosed pain in my knee, foot, calf, ankle being caused by weak hips and gave me a bunch of generic exercises to do is too much to count. I've had athletic trainers telling me that I should stretch for 20 minutes 3 times a day!

Physical therapists go through all this school to get their PHD and then they just hand out generic exercises and watch me do them?!? Most of the people on here could give me the same exercises but they don't need to be paid $70 an hour. Never going to a physical therapist for a running-related injury ever again.

Physical therapists most certainly do not hold PhDs.

OP couldn't get into medical school

I always love the analogies between an auto mechanic and a physician. You really show what an incredibly basic mind you have when you say that.

facts and reason wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The Stone Age would have been such a great time to be alive.

https://www.telegram.com/news/20190122/worcester-surgeon-reprimanded-for-removing-kidney-from-wrong-patient

It happens all the time. Oh, wait - it wouldn't be news if it was the usual. But I'm sure you would prefer a club over a scalpel next time you need an op.

My guess is that the OP can't afford the good ones so to put his mind at ease he chooses to believe that all physicians are worthless. You should vote for someone who wants SOCIALIZED (yeah, I said it) MEDICAL CARE. I promise you , you will benefit from it. Why the american lower middle class continues to oppose this boggles my mind.

The problem ultimately is that the medical world is driven by finance, not on health outcome of patients. Some countries tie in the outcome of patients (including preventative), and are judged on that, and for some strange reason they perform a lot better.

We can see this currently. Reasonable dose Vitamin D would reduce a lot of covid deaths, it's also been proved to help with various other conditions. However, it's never really used clinically or tested large enough scale with the remit of seeing how effective it is to be used as standard in treatments. There's simply no cash in it for them, so more people die.

This is the medical world in many places. Finances over health, so it's not surprising outcomes are often poor.

Can't we all just agree that economists have a fake profession?

They make all these predictions that never come true. Then they just revise their predictions and carry on.

Ignorant. All you ignoramus here, make sure you print this and show it to your ER physician next time your life would depend on it.

"...see you in the douches!"

More people will die in the United States this year from medical errors than will die from or with Covid.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html