MINNESOTA TO CUT 18 WOMEN FROM XC ROSTER-effect on recruiting?

goofers gonna goof

Minnesota was known for the large women's XC squad.

I agree this hurts them, but they are not cutting anyone that will be given a look by another Big 10 school. Most of the girls will likely remain in Minneapolis and not run. Those that transfer will look toward the Summit or Horizon leagues or at theany DII options in the area

I agree, While I think one or two may have potential, this still only HELPS other schools in a recruiting period that minnesota DESPERATELY needs if they wish to be competitive with the loss of the twins next year

Overall, the security of Minnesota as a solid force in the big ten is very much in question as of late

I just don't understand the logic of this at all. The cost of an extra runner on a track team can essentially be almost $0. They don't have to travel. You don't even have to give them shoes right? If they're on the team I'd say give them something some gear but that's it.

What's the logic of the decision?

And in terms of trying to show you are complying with Title IX with a bs quota, keeping women's athletes gooses your numbers.

They have 33 women listed on the XC roster for fall of 2020. If what you say is true (I see no proof) then they would be limited to 15 on the XC roster. That would hurt them significantly. 15 is very low.

I cannot see any logic, and frankly it is heartbreaking for those athletes. I believe minnesota offered a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for those athletes (who would be normally looked over) and that is gone now. Truly a legacy is coming to a tragic, ridiculous end.

MinnesotaIsDONE wrote:

I cannot see how Minnesota will have a strong recruiting class this year.

I don't see how they can have a strong recruiting class any years moving forward. I talked to a D1 coach today and he pointed out that if you look at the Power 5 schools that have women's only track, they all suck.

The teams that have both men's and women's are much better.

Now I know correlation and causation are often times not the same thing but people like joining schools where they know track is important. If you don't even have a men's team, people realize the administration doesn't give a sh** about track. One also knows they don't have great resources as well.

As bad as this sounds, it is not that tragic. Fifteen is plenty of runners when you only need 7 for meets. Quite honestly this is more equal treatment than they were getting before, where everybody was allowed to participate. My school rostered ten men each season to hit title IX. It's division one athletics, it's supposed to be competitive.

rojo, were you still coaching at Cornell when they had the xc roster with 50 women? IIRC they were very (like nationally) competitive that year too.

They've had 50 on the Womens CC roster in the past. Some 2:25/5:35/11:55 high school runners will no longer be able to compete for the Gophers against St. Thomas and St. Olaf.

college sports are on their way out.

College itself is a scam. No reason to be there any longer than 3 years - as in most of the world.

And if you keep failing, get out and get a job.

Its a cycle of debt and drinking

Despite all the cross country success this program is track first under Bingle. They compete successfully in CC against distance oriented B1G programs-MI, WI, MI ST, IN because of the big roster combined with Hopkins’ outstanding patience to develop walk ons and local talent. My daughter is one of that group. Short term (next 1-2 years) this team will be lights out good, but long term the smaller roster and lack of distance scholarships will definitely hurt.

I mean honestly Minnesota has too many girl runners that don’t know how to run at all.

They let so many mediocre runners on their team that compete at the Big Ten level.

Nobody wants to watch girls run 85 second 400s for 5k.

Keep the good ones and move on. This is not a running club this is big ten distance running.

15 is plenty if no one gets injured and the team is provided with adequate scholarship support... so perhaps it's fine at Minn....

on the other hand, they need to balance all those football scholarships with something and distance athletes don't cost much so it's an odd move

in my mind, 15 is the bare minimum needed if you want to field a competitive team consistently.

title 9 wrote:

They've had 50 on the Womens CC roster in the past. Some 2:25/5:35/11:55 high school runners will no longer be able to compete for the Gophers against St. Thomas and St. Olaf.

They will just migrate to UST to join the new D1 school in town.

If we had 8 million people write letters and cry in public it will not mean a thing - NOTHING . There minds are made up and maybe take another approach.

Go after students and alumni that buy tickets to Minnesota football and basketball. Tell them not to go to games. That is the only thing that will make a difference.

What's the chance of that happening.

It's time to start privately owned track clubs and forget the collegiate and high school models for track now.

As others have said, their team is way too big. Their women's cross country team is bigger than every other big ten team. The girls being cut aren't good, and would never run on varsity. It'll have no impact on their competitiveness. And no other big ten teams are going to 'snatch' them up, because they aren't good enough to be snatched up.

couldn't continue waiting at least 5 minutes wrote:

15 is plenty if no one gets injured and the team is provided with adequate scholarship support... so perhaps it's fine at Minn....

on the other hand, they need to balance all those football scholarships with something and distance athletes don't cost much so it's an odd move

in my mind, 15 is the bare minimum needed if you want to field a competitive team consistently.

Cutting mens track, gymnastics, and tennis balanced out those football scholarships. There was no longer any need for dead weight. The money you get from cutting 1 men is multipled by the woman you don't have to keep around..

My daughter came from a small high school team and was heavily recruited by the Gophers. She was put off by the large size of the team compared to others she visited and, despite getting a decent offer, joined a smaller D1 team.

I think the bigger issue, now, though, is the lack of the men’s team. That would, it seems, turn off the top recruits no matter what the size of the women’s team is.