Jeremy Lin
Jeremy Lin
Brent Barry had a better free throw line dunk than Jordan. Does that mean Brent Barry was sub 11? No. Jordan was NOT sub 11 quick. Not even close.
JO Coach wrote:
Trae Young and Dennis Smith Jr.
De’Aaron Fox
Tatyen wrote:
Interesting question and that video on YouTube opens to us some answers. What was the most epic one and who did it?! When I try for myself to do it practically it’s only 5~10% of professional players capabilities. The fact that they dunk the ball from such height is already a big question for me. Interesting how it fills to have such a body, it is great or maybe a problem in real daily life. For the past week came back to my favorite online website to read the most impressive news in the NBA world. Just read about Maggette how he admits taking payments.
Yes, I remember this, how much time passed. You just reminded to me again the best place to read articles. Thank you!
hjk2 wrote:
JO Coach wrote:
Trae Young and Dennis Smith Jr.
De’Aaron Fox
Mike Conley Jr. His father had PRs of 10.36 and 20.21.
Not to mention 27'8" and 58'7"
Sr was an awesome dunker and probably would have held his own in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest.
Comparing the career earnings of the father and son are a good indication of why NBA players don't waste their time trying to break 11 in the 100.
alright, not busy at work so i'm going to go through the nba draft combine and search the fastest guys and see if they have athletic.net profiles.
i only just started, but it already seems it's harder to find profiles as opposed to doing the same kind of exercise for an NFL combine. you usually find a LOT of NFL guys who ran high 10's in high school.
working backwards from 2020 draft. did not find any profiles 2020-21. will post year by year until i get bored
here's 2019-20, found a few profiles but only one guy (Jalen Lecque) was any good.
Miye Oni
3.17 3/4 court @ combine
12.4 100m
26.18 200m
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9235600
Quentin Grimes (Listed as Quintin Grimes, but same HS, same year)
3.20 3/4 court
5'8 HJ
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=9693448
Jaylen Nowell
3.23 3/4 court
12.14 100m
25.7 200m
57.3 400m (multiple > 60s under his name too LOL)
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=6513585
Jalen Lecque
3.29 3/4 court
6'2" HJ
20'7" LJ
45'4" Triple
Was on a 43s 4x100m - however can't find any examples of him running an open 100m
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=13221588
I know this doesn't help us find out how fast Russell Westbrook would have been, but I think I can paint a clear picture that not every guy in the NBA can run >11s... or even >12.
2018-19
Those embedded links are a little annoying so I'm just going to post the ID from now on.
Zhaire Smith (6416782)
3/4 - 3.04
200m -23.52
400m - 53.4
HJ - 5'8"
TJ - 38'
2017-18
Jarrett Allen (6386648)
Very surprised to see this guy here, he's 6'11" and the Nets starting center. Verified the HS so it's not a different Jarrett Allen
100m - 11.8
HJ - 6'0"
LJ - 20'9"
TJ - 44'4"
On a 43s 4x100m
Discus - 79' (lol)
Current NBA players who could do it now or in their prime:
Rondo when young. His college coaches thought he could have competed for best 100m in NCAA. So probably could have run at least 10.2 in college/first couple years in NBA
De'Aaron Fox in his rookie year or college. A lot of these guys add major bulk in the NBA, which slos them down. So your list of NBA players will be artificially short.
Russell Westbrook - Duh
John Wall - Duh. When young he was 30 lbs lighter. A lot of Kentucky guards on this list so far.
Jaylen Brown as a rookie. Tall at 6'5.5" barefoot, but easily could have gone sub 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgR6eQmS-o
Damian Lillard as a rookie
Terry Rozier as a rookie
Kemba Walker
Isaiah Thomas when young
Pascal Siakam
Giannis Antetokoumpo as a rookie
LeBron James as a rookie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEq1n6yJGfc
Colin Sexton as a rookie
Dennis Smith Jr as a rookie
Ja Morant as mentioned above
Dennis Schoder when young
D.J. Augustin when young
Zach Lavine when young
Devonte Graham
Tremont Waters
Anthony Edwards
Andrew Wiggins
Josh Okogie
Matisse Thybulle
Ben Simmons
Eric Bledsoe as a rookie
David Nwaba when young
Victor Oladipo as a rookie
Aaron Gordon as a rookie
Derrick Jones Jr when young
Anfernee Simons
Josh Jackson
Derrick Rose when young
Thon Maker as a rookie
Paul George as a rookie
Donovan Mitchell as a rookie
Brandon Clarke
Coby White
Patrick Williams
There's probably 12-24 more
2016-17
We have our first CROSS COUNTRY runner!
Kay Felder aka Kahlil Felder (4873464)
3/4 - 3.15
5k - 22:24
2015-16
Some guy named Larry Nance ran 10.04 but it is neither Larry Nance Jr. nor Larry Nance Sr.
Kelly Oubre (1893567)
8th Grade
100m - 15.5
200m - 35.5
400m - 61
HJ - 5'4"
Terran Petteway (3588541)
LJ - 19'
Probably won't look too much deeper - You could have been a decent track runner in the late 2000's and have little to no record of it online.
Still searching but much less thoroughly.
Victor Oladipo (2308608)
HJ - 5'10"
Mason Plumlee (636994)
HJ - 6'2"
Miles Plumlee (636995)
HJ - 6'4"
Tony Wroten (3031118)
100m - 11.16
200m - 22.53
Damian Lillard (16712140) - listed as Damion, but HS checks out
HJ - 5'8"
On a 49s 4x100m
Tony Wroten only running 11.16 I think is a good indicator that most NBA players couldn't do it. He was one of those guys who wasn't all that great at basketball, but could stick around because he was more athletic than everyone else.
flvmmox wrote:
Still searching but much less thoroughly.
Victor Oladipo (2308608)
HJ - 5'10"
Mason Plumlee (636994)
HJ - 6'2"
Miles Plumlee (636995)
HJ - 6'4"
Tony Wroten (3031118)
100m - 11.16
200m - 22.53
Damian Lillard (16712140) - listed as Damion, but HS checks out
HJ - 5'8"
On a 49s 4x100m
Tony Wroten only running 11.16 I think is a good indicator that most NBA players couldn't do it. He was one of those guys who wasn't all that great at basketball, but could stick around because he was more athletic than everyone else.
LOL. Top basketball prospect messes around with track in high school and runs an 11.16, and you pretend he couldn't do it if he actually focused and trained for it. And Wroten was only an above average NBA athlete, not elite. He was big and strong for a point guard, with good agility and decent ball handling, and because he was a top high school prospect, he got a few chances to develop his jump shot.
Wroten messing around and just about going sub-11 in high school shows that probably 30-50 NBA guys could do it with training.
11.16 is not "just about going sub-11" and we also don't even know if it's FAT. And he was one guy (who's entire family is sprinters and elite athletes) as opposed to the dozen other mediocre times and locally-good jumps from guys who finished at the top of their combine.
I agree that many of these basketball players I posted were not taking track seriously. But if someone posted on letsrun "I'm a high school senior that ran a 12.14 off of basketball, can I run a 10.99" we'd laugh them off the site.
We can theorize and fantasize all we want, but the actual evidence moreso points that NBA guys in their physical primes would have to train to break 12. I think in reality they're probably faster than that, but not sub-11 fast (save for young Wall, Westbrook, Rose etc.)
flvmmox wrote:
11.16 is not "just about going sub-11"
If someone posted on letsrun "I'm a high school senior that ran a 12.14 off of basketball, can I run a 10.99" we'd laugh them off the site.
Your pathetic argument for why 11.16 isn't close to 10.99 is that 12.14 isn't close to 10.99.
Your pathetic argument continues on, shamelessly, declaring that the speculative argument is over
because none of these basketball specialists have actually been clocked at 10.99.
You sound like an insecure slow-twitch distance runner struggling with low t, when you try so hard to pretend that world class quick-twitch African American NBA stars couldn't break 11 seconds with some practice and dedication. You watch them dunk from or near the free throw line and you think to yourself, "This guy couldn't run D-2 college track."
https://images.dailycaller.com/image/width=960,height=411,fit=cover,f=auto/https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Isaacson-antifa-professor-YouTube-screenshot-Fox-News.jpgDivision 2 track and field recruiting standards
Event D2 Top D2 Low
100m 10.61 11.02
"You watch them dunk from or near the free throw line and you think to yourself, "This guy couldn't run D-2 college track."
no, i see that they run 12 low or 11 high, and say they couldn't run d2 college track. you posted the standards yourself.
LoL some of those guys are not even fast.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Strava thinks the London Marathon times improved 12 minutes last year thanks to supershoes
NAU women have no excuse - they should win it all at 2024 NCAA XC
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!