Addy Ruiter on Joshua Cheptegei : "He is much fitter than Bekele ever was. He proved me he is in 12:30/26:00 shape."

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3 years ago 09/29/2020 7:51pm EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
He was ahead of the wave-light for a good portion of his run. It had a marginal effect at best on that performance. He also did it on a hot day with not a huge amount of pacing help (not like they got him to 3500 meters or anything). It's funny you're acting like Cheptegei is all about the technological bells-and-whistles considering where he trains and his XC performances, which strips all of that stuff out. Beating Kamworor, Kiplimo, Barega and Kipruto shows a lot considering what all have done before and since.

He seems to be only one benefitting from those lights too. Where was everyone else when he ran 12:35?

3 years ago 09/29/2020 8:15pm EDT

re: Just my .02 cents

Just my .02 cents wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
He was ahead of the wave-light for a good portion of his run. It had a marginal effect at best on that performance. He also did it on a hot day with not a huge amount of pacing help (not like they got him to 3500 meters or anything). It's funny you're acting like Cheptegei is all about the technological bells-and-whistles considering where he trains and his XC performances, which strips all of that stuff out. Beating Kamworor, Kiplimo, Barega and Kipruto shows a lot considering what all have done before and since.
He seems to be only one benefitting from those lights too. Where was everyone else when he ran 12:35?

If I'm not mistaken the ethiopians had the lights in their 10k trials last year and all ran fast.

If he truly bis just faster than bekele I want him to run a WR without the lights. He benefitted from those lights and those 2 seconds could easily be attributed to that. Even being ahead of the lights after pacers are gone is a huge mental bonus. How do you not see this.

Bonus question. What's the fastest he has ran on the road without next%/vaporfly shoes

3 years ago 09/29/2020 9:47pm EDT

re: Mzungu in Iten

Mzungu in Iten wrote:
https://www.worldathletics.org/news/feature/addy-ruiter-joshua-cheptegei

Bekele is GOAT. Cheptegei is good, no doubt. But he needs to accomplish way more before he is considered better than the king

3 years ago 09/29/2020 10:28pm EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
He was ahead of the wave-light for a good portion of his run. It had a marginal effect at best on that performance. He also did it on a hot day with not a huge amount of pacing help (not like they got him to 3500 meters or anything). It's funny you're acting like Cheptegei is all about the technological bells-and-whistles considering where he trains and his XC performances, which strips all of that stuff out. Beating Kamworor, Kiplimo, Barega and Kipruto shows a lot considering what all have done before and since.

The shoes though, have to take that into account

3 years ago 09/29/2020 10:42pm EDT

re: VA Runna

He was using his watch and did not appear to be paying attention to the lights.

The shoes could have helped their new and supposed to be better but have no carbon plate and are made of the same material as most other Nike spikes.

The track is likely better since it is new.

But we also have to consider that he would have gone faster with better Pacers and better weather.

If what his coach said is true he is way ahead of bekele

3 years ago 09/30/2020 2:14am EDT

re: Just my .02 cents

The question for Mr. Ruiter should be: How many OOC tests have been performed in the last 10 months on his star pupil? Especially while beeing in Uganda?

3 years ago 09/30/2020 4:57am EDT

re: Mzungu in Iten

Mzungu in Iten wrote:
Great article by Addy Ruiter on Joshua Cheptegei. He believes Joshua is extremely talented and very intelligent, also with a work ethic almost second to none.
Basically thinks Joshua to be as talented as Bekele with the work ethic of Eliud Kipchoge.
Addy said Joshua proved him he was at least in 12:30 shape, and much fitter than Kenenisa ever was. So he's calm before his 10,000m attempt as he has a considerable buffer.
As for the future, Joshua stated he wants to be considered the greatest of all time, so he wants a few gold medals in worlds and olympic games.
What was interesting to me is that Addy believes Joshua best event will be the half and the marathon where he can run 'at least sub 57:30 and sub 2h in a regular race' and with continuity and years and years of undisrupted training, maybe even faster..
Time will tell, but if Joshua breaks the 10,000m wr and wins the world half, and caps it off with a half marathon world record..then, it has to be the greatest season ever for any distance runner ever.

Ypua mean Jama Aden is feeding him even better drugs than he ever could with Bekele, and likewise no testing in Uganda in 2020?

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