McSweyn. Wow. 3:30.52 in Doha today.

mr. nice guy wrote:

question of when he gets popped, not if

oh wait, he's from a comrade country

You say this like being from Australia doesn't mean anything. But it does - Australia has never had a big time bust (unlike USA), and have a very strong antidoping body (unlike Kenya, Russia, etc...)

He races often, year round, so has a lot of in competition tests (BTC anyone?)

His altitude training camps are in places where testers can easily access - Australia, Spain, USA are the standard locations for MTC - so he has regular out of competition tests. (Unlike Mo, every Kenyan)

His coach has also produced countless world class athletes since the 90s (Sonia O'Sullivan, Benita Willis/Johnson, Mottram, Cathy Freeman, Ryan Gregson, Collis Birgmingam, NONE of which HAVE EVER had any suspicion thrown at them.

MTC are also very open about what their training consists of and in Australia often have 30-40 club runners jumping in for sessions (BTC, NOP, Ingebritsens, meanwhile, strive for secrecy)

Looking at the facts, Stewy would appear to be one of the most likely to be clean athletes there is. Can this be proven? No. But let's not throw accusations at a guy for no reason.

well said!

lol m8 of course there's every reason to be suspicious of some australopithecus running such times, especially one after another

being a caucasian from a comrade nation means he's protected from those 'tests' that make you so enthusiastic (yet don't talk about them in the same way when african athletes also race a lot)

mr. nice guy wrote:

lol m8 of course there's every reason to be suspicious of some australopithecus running such times, especially one after another

being a caucasian from a comrade nation means he's protected from those 'tests' that make you so enthusiastic (yet don't talk about them in the same way when african athletes also race a lot)

They mentioned a combination of why he takes in competition and out of competition tests. It’s fact that the out of competition tests in Kenya are not up to scratch (just read Kiprop’s recount of his experience).

Also, if being white and from Australia makes you protected, shouldn’t we have at least heard rumours about Bideau athletes since the 90s? Where there’s smoke there’s fire, like AlSal. No smoke around a Bideau athletes and there never has been.

mr. nice guy wrote:

lol m8 of course there's every reason to be suspicious of some australopithecus running such times, especially one after another

being a caucasian from a comrade nation means he's protected from those 'tests' that make you so enthusiastic (yet don't talk about them in the same way when african athletes also race a lot)

Also, what do you mean by “comrade nation”. Americans are one of the dirtiest countries out there and loads of guys eventually get taken down. UK has similarly had a lot of big busts and rumours.

Australia hasn’t. That’s a fact. So unless you think Australia is the most protected country in the world, top of the Hierarchy of these “comrade nations”, then one of the more plausible arguments is that the Australian athletics culture doesn’t have much doping involved.

Will he break Mottram's Australian 5000m record?

if austrasia had more black runners you'd see more supposed 'busts'

again, being a cac comrade he's protected from any 'tests'

they've been quite irrelevant and mostly working in the shadows of their anglocomrades

the only anglos that get busted are the stupidest ones with $8.49 lozenges or the ones doping well but on their own, not with a state issued license. busting them makes it look like you're not only after blacks and that you maitain 'integrity', which is stupid to believe

mr. nice guy wrote:

lol m8 of course there's every reason to be suspicious of some australopithecus running such times, especially one after another

being a caucasian from a comrade nation means he's protected from those 'tests' that make you so enthusiastic (yet don't talk about them in the same way when african athletes also race a lot)

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Do you consider all top runners dirty mr. nice guy?

Eventually yes. His 1500/3000 credentials point at low 12:50s.

yes hyperbolize and be a victim you cheating shyt

DeeksQuarters wrote:

A great run to cap off an incredible couple of weeks for McSweyn.

I feel like if the pacer had stepped off at the bell and Stewie hadn't needed to swing around him he might have got sub 3:30?

Our best medal chance on the track in Tokyo, the question is which event(s)? I like his chances in fast 1500...

Agree. The pacer should have stepped off. It's broken down in this video..

Nice!

After Jakob and Wightman, Stewy has become my favorite runner to follow.

What's happened to the other young Aussie phenoms? Guys like Tiernan and Mc Donald looked to have a bright future but I don't hear much anymore.

Wonder if Ramsden will develop like McSweyn did.

yes hyperbolize and be a victim you cheating shyt

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You aren´t very nice mr. nice guy.

And not very understandable either!

DeeksQuarters wrote:

I don't know if it would be the best move to tackle a 10,000 at the moment? he's been tuned up for the middle distance over the last couple of months and accomplished everything he needed to in this campaign. Plus he already holds the Australian record in the 10,000 so he's got nothing to prove. I'd rather see him relax and regroup for a great 2021.

Bideau's guys are ready to run at all distances pretty much at any time, so I like his odds over 10,000 w/ 4-6 weeks to tune up.

No guts no glory wrote:

What's happened to the other young Aussie phenoms? Guys like Tiernan and Mc Donald looked to have a bright future but I don't hear much anymore.

Wonder if Ramsden will develop like McSweyn did.

McDonald is with the Bosshard group and, unfortunately, fell victim to the North American aversion to international racing this summer.

Tiernan is now with the OTC, so it's over.

mr. nice guy wrote:

lol m8 of course there's every reason to be suspicious of some australopithecus running such times, especially one after another

Fückwit, if an elite athlete wanted to do PEDs Australia would be one of the last places they'd do it with their testing regime. And lets face it, if they were they'd have to do it in their home country (Australia) at some time before heading OS to compete. So virtually zero chance they are.

I'd like to see him run an 800m while his form is red hot. What's his speed like? He may get another record.

Ramsden I think looks like he’s a couple years from being a consistent finalist in the 5k. He has shown flashes of brilliance over the summer and is 23 with PRs of 3:34, 7:45, and 13:16. So basically a equivalent to a 5th year senior in the NCAA.

I think it’s strange that McDonald and Tiernan didn’t stick with their college coaches considering they had so much success. Maybe Mick and Marcus want to focus on their own athletes, which makes sense.

McDonald has proven he has the speed to beat the top guys in the NCAA which should prove crucial to deciding where he goes from here. I think it’s interesting to look at him vs Fisher. Both battled each other like hell in college and McDonald often came out on top. Now we can see how both their careers progress

moran, dimwit, when will you finally get this through your skull: they're not going to bust their own, you imbecile! state doping programs obviously have to involve testers, shytforbrains! of course they won't get 'caught'! being a comrade means he won't get 'caught' outside of austrasia either.