Dude. It takes years. STFU. You were not active as a kid.
You're hardly active now. It will take 2+ years before you start to see changes.
Dude. It takes years. STFU. You were not active as a kid.
You're hardly active now. It will take 2+ years before you start to see changes.
Are there any other non-mental health problems like low iron that could explain why I am slow?
david45 wrote:
Are there any other non-mental health problems like low iron that could explain why I am slow?
Possibly your [FeO(OH)]8[FeO(H2PO4)] level could be low.
I thought that someone's suggestion to get tested for low iron was unnecessary, considering that male runners with that problem likely got there due to overtraining and/or not eating enough or well enough to support hard training. 15-20 miles per week max doesn't come close to fitting that scenario.
It's very unlikely that health issues are the reason that you are slow if you feel generally healthy and have seen a doctor for a physical and associated tests and the doctor says you are healthy. You are slow mainly due to a lifetime of minimal physical activity. Don't be a hypochondriac.
david45 wrote:
Are there any other non-mental health problems like low iron that could explain why I am slow?
No
pointer outer wrote:
I thought that someone's suggestion to get tested for low iron was unnecessary, considering that male runners with that problem likely got there due to overtraining and/or not eating enough or well enough to support hard training. 15-20 miles per week max doesn't come close to fitting that scenario.
It's very unlikely that health issues are the reason that you are slow if you feel generally healthy and have seen a doctor for a physical and associated tests and the doctor says you are healthy. You are slow mainly due to a lifetime of minimal physical activity. Don't be a hypochondriac.
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
david45 wrote:
pointer outer wrote:
I thought that someone's suggestion to get tested for low iron was unnecessary, considering that male runners with that problem likely got there due to overtraining and/or not eating enough or well enough to support hard training. 15-20 miles per week max doesn't come close to fitting that scenario.
It's very unlikely that health issues are the reason that you are slow if you feel generally healthy and have seen a doctor for a physical and associated tests and the doctor says you are healthy. You are slow mainly due to a lifetime of minimal physical activity. Don't be a hypochondriac.
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
You went from a terrible mile time to a beginner mile time, now you're in the beginner phase where you will be for around 2 years with hard work and at least 5 with poor work. After beginner comes novice where that is another year to 3 years depending on commitment, and then intermediate where most people plateau out or spend another 4 years developing.
David, aerobic capacity takes years to build. Not days, weeks, or even months
david45 wrote:
pointer outer wrote:
I thought that someone's suggestion to get tested for low iron was unnecessary, considering that male runners with that problem likely got there due to overtraining and/or not eating enough or well enough to support hard training. 15-20 miles per week max doesn't come close to fitting that scenario.
It's very unlikely that health issues are the reason that you are slow if you feel generally healthy and have seen a doctor for a physical and associated tests and the doctor says you are healthy. You are slow mainly due to a lifetime of minimal physical activity. Don't be a hypochondriac.
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
no no no no n o n o n o
spot on! wrote:
david45 wrote:
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
no no no no n o n o n o
No. New runners do improve faster.
It is also well established that you lack general strength and condition (can't hold a plank, do some push ups).
You must work on your overall atheticism, be patient and stop obsessing. The gym will probably add so much more to you than specific running plans right now. Your body can change so much in 1-3 months if you train smart and at least it will give you tangible progress to soothe your troubled soul. Also, your easy pace will most likely speed up just because of improved strength, probably coordination and mechanics/form as well. If not, at the very least, it will make you more durable.
Thank your body for what it CAN do. You've given no real reason for anyone (strangers here or your doctor) to suspect you have any physical problem other than the ones stemming from your mindset. Your ferritin levels are beyond fine, btw.
Yes, and you have improved.
You are not entitled to running fast.
But your body still lacks the framework to take the training it needs for the kind of improvement your seeking.
It takes years, everyone is different and it is not linear.
You have started with years of deficit to the people you are comparing yourself to and it is completely counterproductive.
david45 wrote:
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
Definitely. This is why when you are watching an Olympic final and the commentators are giving bios for each of the athletes in the race, there is always a good mix of seasoned professionals and dudes who just started running a month prior.
exactly right wrote:
david45 wrote:
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
Definitely. This is why when you are watching an Olympic final and the commentators are giving bios for each of the athletes in the race, there is always a good mix of seasoned professionals and dudes who just started running a month prior.
I want to break 5 in the mile, not run in the Olympics
OMG, just own it up wrote:
Yes, and you have improved.
You are not entitled to running fast.
But your body still lacks the framework to take the training it needs for the kind of improvement your seeking.
It takes years, everyone is different and it is not linear.
You have started with years of deficit to the people you are comparing yourself to and it is completely counterproductive.
I never said I want to run fast. I just said I want to break 5 in the mile.
david45 wrote:
exactly right wrote:
Definitely. This is why when you are watching an Olympic final and the commentators are giving bios for each of the athletes in the race, there is always a good mix of seasoned professionals and dudes who just started running a month prior.
I want to break 5 in the mile, not run in the Olympics
Whether your assertion that "people who never exercised before...close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training" is true does not depend on your personal goals. Your claim is either true or untrue on its own.
We all fear you have a lack of intelligence.
Get more sleep. That'll do more than anything healthwise.
To break five in the mile, move up to 30-40 mpw. Strides 3-4x per week. Three workouts and a long run of 25% of weekly mileage. One workout should be short speed, like max hill sprints, walk recovery, or 10x150-300, walk recovery; one workout should be 400-2k repeats totaling at least 4800m of interval. Jog rests should be from 200 to 400m between. For instance, 12x400m (200m jog) or 6x800 (200m jog) or 3x1600 (400m jog). The third workout should be a tempo run of 20-40 minutes total, at first broken up into 3x7, then 2x10, then 20 min at a time. In race season, you might skip this one in favor of a race.
david45 wrote:
spot on! wrote:
no no no no n o n o n o
No. New runners do improve faster.
right, they do (often) improve faster. thats only with consistent training. in no sense of the phrase do they "close the gap in just a couple of weeks."
You're not entitled to that either.
david45 wrote:
pointer outer wrote:
I thought that someone's suggestion to get tested for low iron was unnecessary, considering that male runners with that problem likely got there due to overtraining and/or not eating enough or well enough to support hard training. 15-20 miles per week max doesn't come close to fitting that scenario.
It's very unlikely that health issues are the reason that you are slow if you feel generally healthy and have seen a doctor for a physical and associated tests and the doctor says you are healthy. You are slow mainly due to a lifetime of minimal physical activity. Don't be a hypochondriac.
But aren't people who never exercised before supposed to improve very fast at the beginning and close the gap in just a couple of weeks of training?
Do you do any sprinting?