Ruth Bader Ginsburg RIP

fact checker 642572498 wrote:

RBG was the worst justice in history. She is the reason the court became so politicized. She even spoke out against Trump during the 2016 campaign. Her dying wish to not be replaced by Trump is partisan BS and admits that she views the court politically above all else. Her last wish will almost certainly result in riots when the Republicans fulfill their constitutional duty and confirm a new justice.

It brings me immense pleasure to know that she died feeling terrible about Trump picking her replacement. Great joy to know that in her dying moments she was horrified that her death will result in Roe v. Wade being overturned. Instead of cherishing all her accomplishments on her deathbed, I am happy she died ashamed, humiliated, feeling guilty for giving the Republicans a 6-3 advantage.

It is sad that you are filled with so much hate.

"Conservative" judge these days just means "anything for big business" and is usually at the expense of the average American. It has little to do with morals, religious ideology, or even the Constitution. In the past few years we have seen the "conservative" court rulings:

In favor of unlimited corporate money in politics. Corporations cross country lines and their needs are not necessarily aligned with what is good for America. The candidate with the most money wins 90% of the time. This undermines the individual vote and puts all power in the hands of those with money and removed the power from 98% of us.

Companies can use arbitration on their employees one at a time and employees cannot seek "class action" even in cases of many employees illegally treated in the same way. Arbitration avoids the court system set up by the Constitution in favor of a "pay for victory" system.

Restricting women's access to contraceptives. Because we need more unwanted pregnancies, I guess?

Allowing Gerrymandering.

These were the sort of thing that Ginsburg was really worried about. I doubt Roe vs. Wade was the primary concern for Ginsburg, though I am sure she supported it. Her entire career was focused on equal rights for ALL. Read about some of her opinions here and try to keep an open mind.

Sorry to hear that politics is causing problems within your marriage.

That said, in regard to which side is being brainwashed, how do you square the fact that 85-90% of the media is left, yet the vote is roughly split down the middle?

I submit the facts weigh very heavily in favor of the right and that overcomes the incessant noise from the brainwashing left.

Hmm - way tougher on Russia than Obummer was and he's cozying up to Putin? With the sad thing being we should be working very closely with Russia but Trump has kept a distance because of the leftist rhetoric. Supposedly we were going to war with North Korea if Trump was elected - left wrong again (so that disappoints you?). Not sure what you're even referencing with regard to Erdogan and not even sure who MBS is...

And if you think the FBI or our nation's intelligence services can be trusted, what world have you been living in?

You don't think any jobs have come back from China - just wow, saying something that dumb is a complete self-own. Legal immigration needs to increases every single year for eternity? Leftist run cities have many homeless living in their own filth on the streets - not sure if we need constant population increases given that.

further left than V.I.U. wrote:

It is evident the number of personnel on U.S. Supreme Court needs to be significantly expanded. In the past, both Democrats and Republicans appointed individuals about age 60, proven judges with track records. Trump appears he wants to appoint a kid, a 40-something zealot. If there are 29 judges on U.S. Supreme Court, the court in aggregate would be no more powerful than the Supreme Court is today but each judge would have less influence which is good. This is a life time appt. If a card carry Fascist somehow gets on the court, if only one of 29, so what. If some one on the left with former ties to Symbionese Liberation Army, those right of center would not fret, because only one of 29.

I don't hate the argument for more judges (let's say each side got to pick 10 more) but I wonder why this argument comes up now, instead of anytime over the last 50 years when the left controlled the court.

Not to mention Biden passed a crappy healthcare plan that significantly raised everyone's prices and made millions lose their doctors and plans. To add insult to injury, many courts have found it wasn't even legal.

Biden kicked 5 million Americans out of their homes, then bailed out the banks instead of the Americans that he screwed over.

Biden's foreign policy made the middle east a disaster and likely cost 100s of thousands of lives in more meaningless endless wars. Biden not only voted for the Iraq war, he lobbied for it since the 1990s.

Biden's son accepted millions in cash from Russians, Chinese, and Ukranians while Biden was president.

Biden WROTE the 1994 crime bill that TARGETED black people. Trump fixed it.

Biden was also involved in selling guns to mexican cartels.

And many more. But worst of all, Biden was SPYING on the Trump campaign and transition team, and started fraudulent investigations in a desperate attempt to get Hillary Clinton in office. It's clear TREASON. He tried to SUBVERT DEMOCRACY.

Ginsburg was almost universally agreed upon because the Republicans don't fight tooth and nail when they know the nominee is going to get through anyway.

As for what I bolded in your comment above, seems like a lot of Democrats are anti-Catholic, any speech they don't like they try to classify as hate speech or have censored on social media, and only seem to believe in innocence until proven guilty depending on the individual case.

Democrats want the supreme court to look like the 9th circuit. The 9th circuit is an embarrassment. Even after Trump added a bunch of judges there, they are the most overturned court.

I hate to burst a good bubble with actual facts, but...

Also, Trumps kids have been using private servers and emails for state business. Wasn't that why Hillary Clinton was so evil? They also have been intermingling personal business with their state duties.

Anyway, Ginsburg. Great lady. Sorry to lose her.

There were a handful of never-trumpers such as McCain that wanted to sabotage Trump's presidency by opposing everything he did. Trump has done a lot to help with healthcare, such as fighting drug companies to lower prices.

"he must also own this tragedy: the dispossession of at least 5.2 million US homeowner families, the explosion of inequality, and the largest ruination of middle-class wealth in nearly a century."

https://billmoyers.com/2015/02/14/needless-default/

https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-iraq-war-history/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/13/gates_stands_by_statement_that_biden_has_been_wrong_on_nearly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html

We have evidence of Biden bragging on video, that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars from ukraine until they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son.

The newly uncovered info on Hunter Biden is FAR WORSE than anything Trump or is children have done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F09dS9AkKM

The crime bill was HORRIBLE. Watch 5 minutes of this video:

https://youtu.be/krfcq5pF8u8?t=2339

Even Clinton admits the crime bill was horrible (in the above video). It caused mass incarceration (and not of white people).

Your fact check is clearly biased. It admits that guns were sold to mexican cartels under Obama's administration. That is a FACT. Your site says it's half true because obama denied being involved....that's like trump denying he was involved with border patrol arrested illegal immigrants. Eric Holder was actually held IN CONTEMPT of congress because he refused to provide info on fast and furious in a clear cover-up.

And denying the spying and attempted overthrow of Trump (by BIden and Obama) is just idiocy. It's clear. One person (so far) even plead guilty to falsifying documents to the FISA court to get a warrant to spy on them.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/20/six-examples-obama-administration-spying-trump-cam/

Ever since Thurgood Marshall retired and even years before, U.S. Supreme Court has had a 5-4 conservative majority. As I stated days ago on this thread, Marshall retired in 1991. Marshall was replaced by C. Thomas. On right wing media, it is stated often that court has been liberal. No. At times, Anthony Kennedy voted against Scalia and Thomas. That did not mean A. Kennedy was on the left. People are living longer. Educated Gentile women like Coney Barrett tend to live into their 90s. That is too much power for one person.

Major issues on court's schedule:

1) Abortion was legal pre-Roe v. Wade. It was state by state pre-Roe v. Wade. Five states only have one abortion clinic today. If Coney Barrett gets her way, maybe ten other states along with the five would have no abortion clinics. A person in Iowa or Missouri can take a Greyhound bus to Minnesota as females did 50 years ago. I do not see overturning Roe v. Wade as turning our society upside down.

2) Destroying Affordable Care Act.

As indicated by my handle, I was yelling and screaming Affordable Care Act was too business friendly and too conservative. If President Nixon were not impeached, Affordable Care Act is more or less what Nixon would have given U.S. Since Nixon was a Republican, Republicans would have not fought Nixon in 1970s on healthcare. In aggregate, Republicans were not as conservative in 1970s as today. IS CONEY BARRETT REALLY GOING TO TAKE HEALTHCARE AWAY FROM MILLIONS ON A.C.A? Are people of U.S. going to allow her to do so?

In fact, in every year since 1969, the United States Supreme Court has been controlled by a majority of Republican-appointed judges. There has not been a Democrat-appointed Chief Justice since 1953.

Twinkles wrote:

In fact, in every year since 1969, the United States Supreme Court has been controlled by a majority of Republican-appointed judges. There has not been a Democrat-appointed Chief Justice since 1953.

It goes in cycles. From 1932 - 1952, Democrats Roosevelt and Truman combined to nominate 14 Justices.

Since 1969, the White House has been controlled by a Republican President for 20 years and a Republican President for 32 years. It makes sense that more Republican-appointed Justices have been on the court since '69.

Nixon (R) - 6 years, 4 Justices

Ford (R) - 2 years, 1 Justice

Carter (D) - 4 years, 0 Justices

Reagan (R) - 8 years, 4 Justices

Bush (R) - 4 years, 2 Justices

Clinton (D) - 8 years, 2 Justices

Bush (R) - 8 years, 2 Justices

Obama (D) - 8 years, 2 Justices

Trump (R) - 4 years (pending election), 2 Justices (pending Barrett)

As for the Chief Justice, Warren retired during the Nixon Administration, giving Nixon the option to replace him. Burger retired during Reagan's term, and Rehnquist died during Bush's term. The timing of retirements and deaths are what controls who nominates the Chief Justice.

** Since 1969, the White House has been controlled by a Democrat President for 20 years

What people do not understand is when a liberal leaning judge rules it is judicial activism. When a conservative judge does it is called the law. Conservatives do not understand the law any longer. They read whatever they want into the constitution (state or federal). They are just making it up as they go.

Until this partisanship ends nothing will change and we the people will pay the price. In every state with a democrat governor the republicans try and block every order. In states with republican governors and democrat mayors, the governor overturns the mayor's rules. In Wisconsin, the republicans voted to tie the new incoming democrat governor's hands before he even took office. In Minnesota, the governor was trying to rebuild the infrastructure, but the republicans kept blocking the bills. Republicans were doing this despite knowing it would create thousands of jobs and help the economy. BOTH parties need to get back to what is good for the country and not their party.

Twinkles, it's a shame we can't learn from the relationship between Ginsburg and Scalia. Civility is dead, bipartisanship is dead.

BLtheKid wrote:

That said, in regard to which side is being brainwashed, how do you square the fact that 85-90% of the media is left, yet the vote is roughly split down the middle?

I submit the facts weigh very heavily in favor of the right and that overcomes the incessant noise from the brainwashing left.

Just to clarify, the vote for the presidency is split down the middle? So the half that voted for Trump are supportive of facts? Do yourself a favor and look at the facts. Trump has been documented telling over 20,000 false or misleading claims to the American public. The GOP has 95 convictions for corruption since Nixon, while 4 Democrats have been convicted, yet the GOP insists the ''Democrats are corrupt''. Excuse me for pointing out the facts do not support the GOP allegations. When you have 95 convictions vs 4, you are NOT in the position to accuse the OTHER guys of being corrupt. YOUR party clearly and legally has been proven so, while the same is not true of the Democrats. That's 95 vs 4 and you have the gall to pretend the DEMS are crooked? That kind of thinking is what makes America not believe anything you say when you lie, distort and pervert every fact.

coach wrote:

Twinkles, it's a shame we can't learn from the relationship between Ginsburg and Scalia. Civility is dead, bipartisanship is dead.

Agree. I like the story about Scalia giving Ginsburg roses for her birthday. When someone asked him why he would give roses to her since she didn't usually vote in agreement with Scalia, he responded "Some things are more important than votes."

Not to mention in a post about "facts" the kid completely makes up one about 85%-90% of the media is left. That is complete bullcrap. The media is also small town newspapers, local TV, talk radio and the internet which are all very right. In fact, on most political spectrums US media would be center-right at best.

Reality is not right. In fact, the right is consistently wrong about nearly everything.

Twinkles wrote:

What people do not understand is when a liberal leaning judge rules it is judicial activism. When a conservative judge does it is called the law. LIBERALS do not understand the law any longer. They read whatever they want into the constitution (state or federal). They are just making it up as they go.

Fixed it for you.

RBG even said she wouldn't recommend our constitution to other countries. She had zero understanding of it and zero respect for it.