Mondo is already listed at 5' 11" and 174 lbs, very comparable dimensions to a world class sprinter. The pole vault is first and foremost a speed event and Mondo ran a 10.57 in the 100m in high school and long jumped 23', he is undoubtedly faster now. His mother was a world class heptathlete and his father a world class pole vaulter. To think that he has not been receiving the absolute best coaching in the world for this event his entire life is absolutely ridiculous. Go back and watch his 6.17 and 6.18 records from indoors, massive clearances, he has another 10 cm or more to go, he will put the record out of sight before he is done.
Of course he's been receiving the "best" coaching, his dad is a former elite who went 5.80. How many coaches are out there who really know the event well enough to train an elite?
But he's also plainly not where he could be in the strength department. What's wrong with working on that?
Don't be fooled by not wanting to hear what I say! I set it up that way deliberately, so you won't forget once you realize I'm right. That's why I get all the haters. I'm saying room for improvement by working on strength - that's NEVER wrong. Not even because I called Mondo "skinny." Which he is.
If he reads this, and gets offended, and then thinks it through, next year you'll see the buff Mondo going 6.25 and have me to thank for it, though of course you won't, being still too butt-hurt.
you're just delusional
'best coaching' already involves whatever he does with weights
Superstar. He's going to keep going higher.
The wild factoid of the day is Mondo lost to Chris MF Nilsen in the NCAA Championships just 15 months ago. If Nilsen doesn't amount to much as a pro, he can still hold onto that one forever.
The sky is the limit.
Did I deny he was pretty good? No use getting mad. Obviously a strength coach could make him a lot better than he is now.
Funny how distance runners just want to insist on denying that, want to flip it so that lifting is "delusional."
I'm not mad, that's just a lame meme 'argument' you're using
lifting isn't delusional and no one thinks that. you're delusional to think they don't know what they're doing as well as you do
and in my understanding you probably mean he needs more power, not strength
Only on letsrun could you break a world record and be completely dominant in an event and still have people think they know how to train better than you do.
I understand why Mondo competed for Sweden at the start. The US team is competitive to make as an American and he was able to be assured to make worlds/olympics for sweden every year starting at a young age. But his earning potential must be much higher competing at the olympics, winning gold, setting world records, competing for the US, no?
I wonder if he regrets foregoing his NCAA eligibility and therefore not competing in the NCAA this year. Oh wait...
How many muscly high jumpers do you see?
The PV is more similar to the high jump than the 100M. It's not clear at all that putting on muscle mass will make him better.
Also: I bet he does a ton of gym work. It's probably very different than the gym works american are used to. I don't think a 500 lb squat is going to help PV athletes in anyway at all.
I don't really know much about PV but I wonder what you can do to keep him motivated. If he is 20, what keeps him excited and progressing in the sport? He's such a natural and has been "world class training" since like 15. That would be a hard one as his coach.
Incredible. Efficiently built from conception to be the ultimate pole vaulter. Still remember the last time I pole vaulted (if you can call what I did that) for fun and screwed up my back. Coach was pissed because I was our best high and intermediate hurdler.
Cool story bro.
6.15 in Rome. Now has indoor and outdoor world records.
Age 17 5.90 to age 21 5% improvement = 6.20 (2021)
He may go 10% eventually 6.50 !
How many muscly high jumpers do you see?
because they're all 7 feet tall, you have to be skinny to be that tall.
but anyhow, there are quite a few with muscles.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Anyone know what Greg looked like when vaulting? I don't remember and searches only bring up old-Greg and Armand.
This is among the most likely clean WR's. If Mondo is on anything anabolic, it isn't working.
Here is a picture of Greg pole vaulting. He is very muscular.
The kid will fill out as he gets older. Most high jumpers are not 7 feet tall and the current ones aren’t heavily muscled. Wigins probably thinks WVN should put on ten lbs of muscle for the 400.
^ another distance runner: "muscles are bad, don't get muscles."
Duplantis looks muscular and not skinny to me. Lavillenie looks about the same. Muscular, not ripped. They look like 400m runners. And he's only 20.
Don't forget the physics of the actual pole in relationship to the vaulters speed, weight, height, etc. A 'bigger' Mondo also would mean a bigger pole. Without a corresponding increase in speed the bigger pole doesn't necessarily help. What could actually be the most interesting "data point" is if 20 year Mondo grows and inch or so taller in his early 20's as many folks do. Everything else being equal, the extra height/possibly longer wingspan could help add some more record to the record. Also, in my opinion, there are two events in T&F that are as much of an art as a science; pole vault and javelin. The other events are more about physics.