Not making this up: NCAA reschedules the NCAA XC championships for the same weekend as the 2021 NCAA indoors

Idiotic, but I doubt either event takes place. It would have been great to see someone try to double in indoor and XC if they were spaced 1 or 2 weeks apart.

This actually sounds like a great plan. Not sure why rojo is whining so much.

Sprinters, throwers, jumpers, mid-distance do indoor track. XC long distance guys to XC season. Meet back up for outdoor. Allows for two proper seasons instead of trying to cram in three. Makes indoor meets go by faster and be less crowded.

2 different sports is correct!

But did you know most xc coaches are AGAINST xc scholarships? Why? Because those scholarships would be limited to 5/6 and distance coaches get a false sense of accomplishment by over investing track scholarships to look good during cross country season.

And plenty of universities in cold winter climates so not have indoor tracks, yet still manage to compete in the sport. You simply find a way.

So the athletes can be on two sports teams going on at the same time? Maybe they would have to give up one .

No way you could have an indoor meet in many places given current restrictions on indoor gatherings.

I'd love to see all of you tough guys come run a cross country race in the Northern Plains in January and February. It's easy to talk tough when you have no idea what you're talking about. From the University I ran for, it'd be at least 8 hours of driving to get anywhere that might be realistic to host an XC meet at that time of year. Those comparing to the European XC in the winter, are any of those races held in Ukraine? Northern Finland? Because that's the weather we're talking about here.

XC over indoor? yep totally... in October and November. For real racing and developing, indoor places a bigger role in the outdoor season. Indoor needs to happen to keep our sport alive and for students to keep competing. dont even forgret about the money from indoor;)

I love cross country a with all my heart, but a lot of people dont care about 5k/8k/10k times on courses that they've never ran on or been to.

How far does univ of miami have to drive to find an indoor track? How far does maine have to drive to play a February baseball game? We live in a big diverse country geographically. Someone will always have something to complain about. Find a way.

Some schools have ski teams. Is it unfair that umiv of Georgia doesn't have a ski team? Everyone has choices dictated by circumstance. Circumstances change, maybe choices have to change also.

Indoor seems like a non-starter at this point, both with respect to restrictions on indoor gatherings in the states in which indoor track primarily occurs - Washington and Massachusetts - and indoor facilities often being poorly ventilated/self-contained facilities with limited space for appropriate non-competition social distancing. It's hard to imagine an indoor track meet at BU for example, given current restrictions and best practices. Perhaps if other areas on campus were used as staging areas and only competitors were allowed in the facility at their time of competition.

I 've heard from people with assocations to University of Washington that they aren't going to be allowed to host any indoor meets this year.

PeanutButterJelly wrote:

I'd love to see all of you tough guys come run a cross country race in the Northern Plains in January and February. It's easy to talk tough when you have no idea what you're talking about. From the University I ran for, it'd be at least 8 hours of driving to get anywhere that might be realistic to host an XC meet at that time of year. Those comparing to the European XC in the winter, are any of those races held in Ukraine? Northern Finland? Because that's the weather we're talking about here.

suck it up, Buttercup

mr wrong wrote:

XC over indoor? yep totally... in October and November. For real racing and developing, indoor places a bigger role in the outdoor season. Indoor needs to happen to keep our sport alive and for students to keep competing. dont even forgret about the money from indoor;)

I love cross country a with all my heart, but a lot of people dont care about 5k/8k/10k times on courses that they've never ran on or been to.

XC plays a larger role for distance development. If leg speed is the concern, spend 2-3 weeks post XC getting your legs under you, strides, 200s at one mile-800m pace, 600s at 5k-mile pace etc.

Noo wrote:

Who even cares about XC at this point? Just scrap it and move on to track. What is the need to cram both events into one season?

I think you may be the only person in the world that thinks this. Every school wants XC to happen.

Indoor track is the only redundant season in the running world, being immediately followed by the much-preferred, more competitive outdoor season.

internet user 01234 wrote:

I 've heard from people with assocations to University of Washington that they aren't going to be allowed to host any indoor meets this year.

Also, there's this. In the COVID environment, it's nearly impossible to host safe indoor meets (even if 'safe' is a lesson on optics).

XC and outdoor is the most likely scenario.

Possibly they did this to prevent athletes from doubling? I would love to see it though.

If you're a distance coach you'll have to decide which basket to put your eggs in. If you're a team that can score a decent amount of distance event points at indoor conference and nationals and is fairly well rounded, you might prioritize the track. But most programs couldn't put together a great 5 for XC if they're top athletes are solely doing indoor track. If the head coach isn't the XC coach or it isn't a distance scholarship heavy team, the head coach will be breathing down the distance coaches neck for indoor track if there's points on the line.

Likewise, it might be a team that could place well at XC nationals where the distance team portion is so good the overall team placing for indoor conference and nationals would tank without the best distance runners. In that case, you really hope the XC coach is the head coach. This will be a very complication situation.

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rojo wrote:

Gotta love those bureaucrats. How in the world could anyone be so stupid? Seriously.

Now they did add this, "The Division I men’s and women’s championships are scheduled for March 15. However, there is some concern in the membership about conducting cross country, indoor track and field, and outdoor track and field in the spring term. The Division I Competition Oversight Committee will continue to evaluate the issue."

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-council-approves-moving-fall-championships-spring

XC is apparently on a monday.

https://twitter.com/DavidWoods007/status/1306383681624432642

Rojo show me on the doll where the NCAA hurt you

POD

Cross country

The Division I men’s and women’s championships are scheduled for March 15. However, there is some concern in the membership about conducting cross country, indoor track and field, and outdoor track and field in the spring term.

The Division I Competition Oversight Committee will continue to evaluate the issue.

For now, 255 runners from each gender will compete at the cross country finals site.

Regular-season competition could be conducted Jan. 30-March 5, with championships selections on March 6.

Uh...does this not include the ACC, SEC, XII, Conference USA, American Athletic and Sunbelt? These are the only DI schools participating in fall sports. Most of these schools have ridiculously scheduled two or 3 meets. So will they cancel these insignificant little meets in the fall, including the conference championships?

U know nothing jon snow wrote:

No way you could have an indoor meet in many places given current restrictions on indoor gatherings.

Just have it in conjunction with a trump rally. He breaks local laws about indoor gatherings without masks.