That's great, coming back of that ACL injury.
400m clean world record.
Duelingtraitorsforpresident wrote:
400m clean world record.
Nah way to slow to be any kind of wr, 43.03 is the clean wr
His first 300m he was no where
With a better paced race he seems to be at least in 44 something shape
He looked good, ran it conservative like he is still trying to figure things out. If he runs a few more races he will probably get under 45. As I said in a post a few years ago, he will never come close to the world record again; he think he caught lighting in bottle when he ran 43.03.
Looks quite thin and weak right now. He'll gain the strength back with more time. Tokyo moving to 2021 did him a massive favor.
Standard Setter wrote:
Tokyo moving to 2021 did him a massive favor.
Wow, such insight.
Uhhh more importantly what place was he?
TrackCoach wrote:
He looked good, ran it conservative like he is still trying to figure things out. If he runs a few more races he will probably get under 45. As I said in a post a few years ago, he will never come close to the world record again; he think he caught lighting in bottle when he ran 43.03.
I won't say never since he is a once in a lifetime athlete, but it won't be unprecedented for him to never reach that mark again. The 400m is a long sprint, which makes executing a perfect race like his Rio lane 8 dash insanely rare. For example it took Michael Johnson 7 years of chasing the record to finally lower the previous benchmark, and it ultimately all came together for him toward the end of his prime even though he was in better shape in 1995 and 1996. The odds are indeed unlikely. But if he can become a consistent 43 runner again he could still potentially dominate.
I have a hunch Norman will take over the event though (what a hot take wow). Wayde was certainly something special in his prime, and he broke new ground with with his sub 10/20/44 sprint trio, but 9.86 for a 400m sprinter is just something else, and I suspect he'll take the event into new territory.
Norman does not the mental toughness. He crumbled in Doha. Watch the interview post race: he was not injured.
Kerley does not have another 4 years in him with his body type.
Pure B.S on both points
I've asked this question enough times and no one has responded: Why would Norman crumble in a semi against the likes of also-rans and not the final where he would face the eventual winner in Steven Gardiner? It makes absolutely no sense. He was dealing with an adductor issue for a good part of the 2019 outdoor season and it flared up in Doha. End of story
Fred Kerley's demise was talked up after a lackluster 2017 and yet he continued to remain in the conversation as one of the best quartermilers nabbing a bronze and clocking 43.64 last year. He'll be relevant in 2024
Wayde will be back but will no longer be the big dog. That's just how it goes sometimes.
when you come back from injury, 45 is very ok.
round the corner is 44.
poised for 43
43 is epic.
this is the deal
Wayde will likely be back to top form, this is a decent season opener. He was just recently cleared to train again after the covid misunderstanding.
I don't know if he will medal next year even if he gets to 43 low shape though, the mens 400m is the most competitive sprint event right now. 10 put of 18 of the men who have gone sub 43 are competing right now, a 43 sec pb may not get you to the tokyo Finals.
Sub 43? who ran sub 43!
paris2024hawk wrote:
Wayde will likely be back to top form, this is a decent season opener. He was just recently cleared to train again after the covid misunderstanding.
I don't know if he will medal next year even if he gets to 43 low shape though, the mens 400m is the most competitive sprint event right now. 10 put of 18 of the men who have gone sub 43 are competing right now, a 43 sec pb may not get you to the tokyo Finals.
*44. I'd pick on you for that typing oversight, but I do that all the time so I understand it's a "straw man"
attack.
I'd rather put a dig in on the concept of a 43.99 in a 400m semi not getting you into the finals. No way that happens. It's just not. Hell, if something like that happened, that would likely result in the winner of the final not breaking 44 cause everyone would be toast in the final.
I'm well off the bandwagon on Wyade, but this run he just did shows he has put it back together, at least on a basic elite level. Now the question is, HOW MUCH can he get ALL the pieces back in place to run with the likes of Kerley, Norman, etc. With this recent run, one could make the case that he can be in the fight for another title, but even this run doesn't show anything with certainty. I'm a naysayer on him, so I'd be conservative on any continued progress (at least in the sense of him having to be these other 43.xx guys) and say he'd be on the outside looking in for the Tokyo gold. But with this run, it's no longer absurd to get back the bandwagon with him.
I expect the 400m to be competitive for the next few years. But Norman's potential is almost ridiculous to think about. He could potentially challenge for the 100m world title ffs. Someone with that kind of flat speed and with speed endurance, well we haven't seen that ever, but the closest thing would be Van Niekerk (I'll throw Michael Johnson in there as well, since you know, 19.32). If you were to place bets on who will break 43 among active athletes he is the obvious choice. Of course with Gardner, Kerley, and Wayde all still there, he's not going to get any titles easily.
Standard Setter wrote:
Looks quite thin and weak right now.
That's kinda his MO, though. He's always been thin and weak-looking. He's just fast.
Yeah I meant sub 44, and what I was saying is that there will be athletes who have run 43.XX that don't make it to the final which is true. Also running a 43.XX ,during the olympics, may not make the finals if there are ten sub 44 men in The field and may there will be more ,3 or 4 more, next year.
Reminds me of Jeremy Wariner's 2016 comeback to nowhere.