Officially over 200,000 dead Americans from Covid-19

Armstronglivs wrote:

David Wowie wrote:

@ 188,000 of whom would have been dead by now absent Covid

You know that because you were the physician to each and every one of them. BS.

Just someone using my name came up with that number.

But when you consider the median age at death of 80+, how many died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and the fact that 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions, I think it is fair to say that the 188,000 number is likely not a gross overstatement

David Zowie wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You know that because you were the physician to each and every one of them. BS.

Just someone using my name came up with that number.

But when you consider the median age at death of 80+, how many died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and the fact that 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions, I think it is fair to say that the 188,000 number is likely not a gross overstatement

Wrong.

"About 70% of all US COVID-19 deaths are to age 70 y or above, somewhat above the 64% for normal mortality. In fact, the age distribution of deaths attributed to COVID-19 is quite similar to that of all-cause mortality, which tends to increase by about 10% every year of age after age 30 y."

Pretty soon you demented leftist fascists will be taken down. YOU will be marked for life for supporting this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEe8uRlUPIc

CorrectorII wrote:

David Wowie wrote:

Of course not. I have seen plenty of that with my own eyes and it was not used as an excuse to remake society

If your claim is correct we will see a drop in excess deaths of 188k by the end of the year. How much money are you willing to donate to a charity if that doesn't happen? It looks like you missed the HIV point, claiming (arbitrarily) that by now most those people would have been dead can be claimed for a lot of situations

Excess deaths is a made up number based on projections and methodologies and assumptions.

Let's see the actual number of deaths this year

Armstronglivs wrote:

David Zowie wrote:

Just someone using my name came up with that number.

But when you consider the median age at death of 80+, how many died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and the fact that 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions, I think it is fair to say that the 188,000 number is likely not a gross overstatement

Wrong.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035

"About 70% of all US COVID-19 deaths are to age 70 y or above, somewhat above the 64% for normal mortality. In fact, the age distribution of deaths attributed to COVID-19 is quite similar to that of all-cause mortality, which tends to increase by about 10% every year of age after age 30 y."

Exactly

Very few young people die of heart disease and cancer and very few young people have died from Covid.

What is "wrong" in the listed facts: ..the median age at death of 80+, how many died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and the fact that 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions

Whodunit wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Wrong.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/36/22035

"About 70% of all US COVID-19 deaths are to age 70 y or above, somewhat above the 64% for normal mortality. In fact, the age distribution of deaths attributed to COVID-19 is quite similar to that of all-cause mortality, which tends to increase by about 10% every year of age after age 30 y."

Exactly

Very few young people die of heart disease and cancer and very few young people have died from Covid.

What is "wrong" in the listed facts: ..the median age at death of 80+, how many died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and the fact that 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions

Forget BLM - "Only Young Lives Matter". The motto of many on Letsrun. It has been said that the measure of a civilised society is how it treats its most vulnerable. That question has been answered here, by the contempt shown for the loss of life amongst the elderly and the infirm. America today.

.The median age at death is 80+, the majority died in nursing homes where only 50% of people survive their first five months, and 94% of these people had at least two other life threatening conditions.

The vast majority of these folks were on death's door. That's an obvious fact

Forget the virtue signaling.

How many people have had their lives destroyed by these lockdowns?

How many tens of millions will be evicted due to the lockdowns?

How many businesses are gone forever?

How many jobs?

What about all these people? Where is your concern?

You don't really have any, do you? You just don't want to admit to yourself that the establishment has suckered you

Whodunit wrote:

The vast majority of these folks were on death's door. That's an obvious fact

NO, IT ISN'T.

The CDC has recorded about a quarter-million excess deaths in 2020--so far--beyond the UPPER BOUND of what would have been expected this year (based on the last several years).

There has been NO variable in 2020 that didn't appear in previous years, except SARS-CoV-2. NONE. There haven't been a multitude of school shootings, or Vegas-style massacres. The novel virus is it.

The upper bound itself accounts for the numbers of people "who would have died anyway" this year--even with a random statistical uptick. The roughly quarter-million is ALL EXTRA.

Whodunit wrote:

Let's see the actual number of deaths this year

The post above presents the best compilation of that. Scroll about 40% down the page for the chart.