Officially over 200,000 dead Americans from Covid-19

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

@ 188,000 of whom would have been dead by now absent Covid

David Wowie wrote:

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

@ 188,000 of whom would have been dead by now absent Covid

You know that because you were the physician to each and every one of them. BS.

joedirt wrote:

Correction, allegedly 12,000 or so dead of COVID alone (although even that number is questionable). The other 188,000 died of COVID and a myriad of other conditions. Likely 100,000 of those were people from nursing homes or other assisted living with a limited life expectancy. None of us live forever.

So how come the death rate in UK is now about 20 per day down from 1000 and America still at 800?

Hand of fate is on me now wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

So-called "third-world, mismanaged poor" countries have been hit the least of all so far with Covid. Haiti has little healthcare system to speak of and used voodoo to treat patients yet they have one of the lowest rates of coronavirus in the world.

Haiti is good at Covid, but it's not Nigeria type good. Nigeria has 207 million people packed into a country 1/10 the size of the US and they only have 1,093 total deaths! We lose that many in a day. Heck of a job for Nigeria with 0.11% of cases, but 2.7% of the world population. 25/0.11 = 227. They are 227 times better than we are. Those are the numbers we have.

It is a very sad irony that the first world has done so poorly in containing the virus compared to many third world countries. In the first world, we have not seen a real pandemic since Polio and the measles. We have excellent water quality, food safety and public health and are not used to widespread health crises. In the third world, they have been taking the brunt of emerging infectious diseases and respect the difference public health measures can make.

David Wowie wrote:

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

@ 188,000 of whom would have been dead by now absent Covid

Can you believe no one ever died from HIV?

Fact:

Most of the top 10 worst countries are third world mismanaged countries. The US has the 11th worst number of covid deaths/population.

That's an embarrassing statistic that highlights the quality of the response the US had. Made worse by the fact that the US had 2 months to prepare since December when Asia was already dealing with it.

Precious Roy wrote:

China, S. Korea, Germany, Australia, N. Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Vietnam, etc. have all kept deaths very low and have controlled outbreaks and the re-emergence of the virus. The US is just a sitting duck for another massive outbreak this fall.

So much for that advanced Vietnamese health care:

Where do they even get used condoms in the first place?

comedyre1i3f wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

China, S. Korea, Germany, Australia, N. Zealand, Canada, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Vietnam, etc. have all kept deaths very low and have controlled outbreaks and the re-emergence of the virus. The US is just a sitting duck for another massive outbreak this fall.

So much for that advanced Vietnamese health care:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/vietnamese-factory-busted-washing-and-reselling-used-condoms/

Where do they even get used condoms in the first place?

Vietnam just passed two weeks with no community transmission of the coronavirus. 95 million people and not a single case in two weeks. It is a good thing that Vietnamese authorities caught the used condom operation because bars and clubs are reopening in Danang.

Fact: Belarus had no response to the virus and they did much better than the US.

Fact: Nigeria did far better than the US even though they are standing on top of each other there and have crap health care.

Fact: The virus is a nothing burger.

Fact: Many countries like the US & Britain have been caught fudging numbers and other countries like Sweden are counting differently than others (such as Sweden counting differently than Norway).

Therefore, FACT: You can't really determine accurately what the deaths are due to virus alone.

Since there is no indication of this being a threat greater than a flu and since the CDC itself claims 99.99% survivability for most, this leads to again..

Fact: This virus is a nothing burger

However, FACT: We've ruined millions of lives because of the reaction and we've put billions more into the hands of billionaires and are currently allowing them to do whatever they want with us.

Aren't those two countries on Trump's Sh*t hole list ? Karma, baby.

Two more items to add to the list:

200k+ excess deaths reported in the US so far

200k+ covid related deaths in the US reported by health authorities

Sharkz Jamp wrote:

stephen56 wrote:

Not necessarily from corona

still trotting out this old chestnut?

yes some deaths tagged COVID are of people who would have died anyway....and an equal or more are not tagged COVID when that was the actual cause....that's how we end up with 250k plus extra deaths this year...even more than COVID deaths.

and no...those are not 250k lockdown deaths, though that obviously plays a small role. But the timing of the peak of the excess deaths early on, and the rise in deaths before the lockdown even started suggest the surge in excess deaths had very little to do with lockdown.

but of course, if you haven't realized that by now, even in face of mountains of evidence, your mind ain't changin'

Where is your evidence that lockdown related death is a small role, if it is so obvious to you. Is is because of all of the assumed at home death attributed to covid rather than normal cause when people are afraid to go get medical help and die? BS, all of your statement are unfounded opinions based on opinions and not data. Where are your "mountains" of evidence?

Pretty much, but CNN say no you are wrong. You have the wrong facts and they have the right facts so you need to shut up and comply.

Shelton wrote:

David Wowie wrote:

@ 188,000 of whom would have been dead by now absent Covid

Can you believe no one ever died from HIV?

Of course not. I have seen plenty of that with my own eyes and it was not used as an excuse to remake society

David Wowie wrote:

Shelton wrote:

Can you believe no one ever died from HIV?

Of course not. I have seen plenty of that with my own eyes and it was not used as an excuse to remake society

If your claim is correct we will see a drop in excess deaths of 188k by the end of the year. How much money are you willing to donate to a charity if that doesn't happen? It looks like you missed the HIV point, claiming (arbitrarily) that by now most those people would have been dead can be claimed for a lot of situations

Please, tell me how Sweden is counting differently from Norway. Is that a FACT?Documentation.

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

Bull!

No one believes those falsified numbers.

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

Bull!

No one believes those falsified numbers.

It’s a sad irony that the majority of Covid deaths are because of obesity-related comorbidites, something almost nonexistent in the third world. Take those out and the elderly who were already ill of health, and the “count” is almost not even noticeable. Yes, there are always outliers of course, as with any disease, but we don’t destroy small business and education over those.

What is the “count” for mental health-related deaths, overdoses, domestic homicides, and those resulting from inaction to seek medical attention because of Covid-fear?