Officially over 200,000 dead Americans from Covid-19

Trump again 3 days ago about covid: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

Imagine the same logic applied during WW2.

FDR in 1940: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

Swaglord_the_real_one_1_1 wrote:

Trump again 3 days ago about covid: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

Imagine the same logic applied during WW2.

FDR in 1940: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

That pretty much was FDR's attitude in 1940.

Let's not lose sight of the basic point: 200,000 Americans have died. I hope no American can be okay with that.

South Korea and the U.S. announced their first COVID fatalities on the same day. SK has had 372 COVID deaths--not today or this week or this month, but 372 *total*. The United States has about 6 1/2 times as many people as South Korea and 537 times as many deaths.

Yes, it's sad. Truly.

did nothing till our own crap got blown up wrote:

That pretty much was FDR's attitude in 1940.

My point is that yes, WW2 did go away. But after millions of death and mucho destruction.

did nothing till our own crap got blown up wrote:

Swaglord_the_real_one_1_1 wrote:

Trump again 3 days ago about covid: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

Imagine the same logic applied during WW2.

FDR in 1940: "Yeah, uh, i mean one day it'll just go away"

That pretty much was FDR's attitude in 1940.

Bull.

For the first time in the history we have a virus that is political, as threads like this show. If you are Republican or on the right you can even will it out of existence - usually by calling it something else, like "the flu", or even a "hoax". To be a "patriotic" American now means you don't give sh*t about 200,000 dead Americans. Go Trumpsters.

It’s almost like this year isn’t over.

stephen56 wrote:

stephen56 wrote:

200000 dead with corona. But still yea, quite tragic looking at the excess death this year

Not necessarily from corona

still trotting out this old chestnut?

yes some deaths tagged COVID are of people who would have died anyway....and an equal or more are not tagged COVID when that was the actual cause....that's how we end up with 250k plus extra deaths this year...even more than COVID deaths.

and no...those are not 250k lockdown deaths, though that obviously plays a small role. But the timing of the peak of the excess deaths early on, and the rise in deaths before the lockdown even started suggest the surge in excess deaths had very little to do with lockdown.

but of course, if you haven't realized that by now, even in face of mountains of evidence, your mind ain't changin'

Making room for the next generation.

kibitzer wrote:

Let's not lose sight of the basic point: 200,000 Americans have died. I hope no American can be okay with that.

South Korea and the U.S. announced their first COVID fatalities on the same day. SK has had 372 COVID deaths--not today or this week or this month, but 372 *total*. The United States has about 6 1/2 times as many people as South Korea and 537 times as many deaths.

Yes, it's sad. Truly.

Darn that Andrew Cuomo, amirite?

More serious note: USA is filled with obese people who live unhealthy lifestyles (hypertension, type 2 diabetes, heart disease) and CV19 crushes high-risk people like that. Same for most EU countries.

South Korea is not.

Your obsession with fabricating your own evolving story is unimpressive. The facts speak for themselves.

Here is what you posted: "The US is top 7-8 in deaths per population with all others third world mismanaged poor countries." [Posted on 09/15/2020 9:57pm PDT]

You also posted this (caps are yours): "They are the ONLY countries in the whole world that have done worse than the US in death/population" (referring to Peru, Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador, Spain, and Brazil) [Posted on 09/15/2020 9:41pm PDT]

BOTH of those are lies. They are demonstrably false statements that you deliberately made for the purpose of deceiving others.

Your other quotes that you collected above were NOT clarifications or corrections, as you are now pretending. They were attempts to soften the previous statements while still pretending you had a valid point -- that the US was relatively alone with the third world guys. That was debunked with this annotated listing that is re-posted below (and which you ignored):

San Marino - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Peru

Belgium - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Andorra - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Spain - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Bolivia

Chile

Brazil

Ecuador - arguably NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

UK - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

USA - country in question

Italy - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Sweden - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Mexico

Panama - arguably NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

France - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Colombia

Sint Maarten - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Netherlands - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

Ireland - NOT "third world mismanaged poor"

In your latest post, you have tired a quantitative approach - i.e., "look, I told the relative truth more times than I flat out lied." That approach fails because you did not correct or clarify, rather as noted above, you are and were just attempting to re-cast your own previous falsehoods in a vaguer light.

What's weird about people like you is that even when you actually have a point and good evidence to back it up, you are incapable of making it without lying or deliberately mishandling the evidence. Trump does it all the time - even lies when he's correct.

CorrectorII wrote:

It's unnecessary to post a whole page of text to say that it's 11th, and not 7-8th worst. Is that really what got you panties in a bunch?

LOL, it’s a weird thing to hang your hat on but given his desperate repetitiveness I think he knows he got this one wrong.

7th, 11th - either way that’s terrible for a country like ours.

Man Overboard wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

Let's not lose sight of the basic point: 200,000 Americans have died. I hope no American can be okay with that.

South Korea and the U.S. announced their first COVID fatalities on the same day. SK has had 372 COVID deaths--not today or this week or this month, but 372 *total*. The United States has about 6 1/2 times as many people as South Korea and 537 times as many deaths.

Yes, it's sad. Truly.

Darn that Andrew Cuomo, amirite?

More serious note: USA is filled with obese people who live unhealthy lifestyles (hypertension, type 2 diabetes, heart disease) and CV19 crushes high-risk people like that. Same for most EU countries.

South Korea is not.

This. Before covid everybody and their mother loved to joke about how gross and unhealthy the average Americans lifestyle was, but can't seem to connect the dots ad to why there are so many covid deaths in the US (which are usually accompanied by at least 1 comorbidity)

So-called "third-world, mismanaged poor" countries have been hit the least of all so far with Covid. Haiti has little healthcare system to speak of and used voodoo to treat patients yet they have one of the lowest rates of coronavirus in the world.

Cool story, Trump & Balsonaro number one and two.

Shock, horror.

Armstronglivs wrote:

For the first time in the history we have a virus that is political, as threads like this show. If you are Republican or on the right you can even will it out of existence - usually by calling it something else, like "the flu", or even a "hoax". To be a "patriotic" American now means you don't give sh*t about 200,000 dead Americans. Go Trumpsters.

No...the thought of another 4 yrs of Trump terrifies the Democrats more than any pandemic. ?

Be smarter than this Pastor.

Ciro wrote:

https://people.com/human-interest/pastor-told-congregation-didnt-have-to-wear-masks-icu-coronavirus/

Be smarter than this Pastor.

Or be more smarter and mock the virus like some world leaders: 65 yr old Belarus President Lukashenko mocked the virus from the get go and then mysteriously gets infected but is *asymptomatic.* So, I guess the virus doesn't care much for Pastors but has a great deal of respect for Slavic Heads of States? ?