Officially over 200,000 dead Americans from Covid-19

Wow, COVID is sooooo gay!

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

"None of us live forever". Isn't that what FDR said in 41-'45 and folks said after 9/11?

No FDR said "The only thing to fear is fear itself" Before hundreds of thousands of young Americans joined a war where they knew many would die in. They stormed the beaches of Normandy knowing they were more likely going to die than survive. Now people don't have the cajones to face a virus that to date has killed .06% of the US population and half of the deaths have been in nursing homes, even more being sickly people. Not to say its not sad when people die of COVID but a COVID death is not greater than any other death and there aren't very many young people dying of it.

Not many young people dying of it? Whew. That makes it ok then. But then they can infect old and vulnerable people who will die of it. Do you have the "cojones" (correct spelling) to infect someone who will die? Sure you do, champ.

Also, Covid deaths are not wartime casualties incurred fighting to save the rest of us. Think more of a bomb dropped in your midst that has taken out 200,000 people. 65x 9/11. But it's not you, so that ok. Just other Americans.

It’s worth reiterating that the average life expectancy of people in a nursing homes is five months, so many of the people who died five or more months ago in New York when Cuomo was vectoring COVID infections to the most vulnerable populations, would have died by now regardless.

An Italian study found the average person who died from covid died 11 years earlier than would be expected.

That is on average a significant amount of time.

Either way this is a time to come together as a nation and take a moment to remember all of them.

joedirt wrote:

It’s worth reiterating that the average life expectancy of people in a nursing homes is five months, so many of the people who died five or more months ago in New York when Cuomo was vectoring COVID infections to the most vulnerable populations, would have died by now regardless.

This is a gawddam lie. Avg life expectancy as 14 months. Median was 5 month. Thanks for showing the rest of us how mathematically illiterate you are.

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

Considering we were on a course for around 2.5 million deaths within a period of 18-24 months, it looks like we are doing pretty good considering how massive and complex the U.S. is. I think we won't see more than 500,000 deaths after two years (March , 2022), and maybe 600,000 when the pandemic is considered "over" in 2024.

More souls have been lost to Satan than from the Contagion SCAMDEMIC.

Hand of fate is on me now wrote:

Considering we were on a course for around 2.5 million deaths within a period of 18-24 months, it looks like we are doing pretty good

Heck of a job for the US with 25% of cases, but 4% of the world population

Guess what these countries have in common? (other than being mostly very poor, mismanaged third world countries)

Peru

Bolivia

Chile

Ecuador

Spain

Brazil

They are the ONLY countries in the whole world that have done worse than the US in death/population

CorrectorII wrote:

Hand of fate is on me now wrote:

Considering we were on a course for around 2.5 million deaths within a period of 18-24 months, it looks like we are doing pretty good

Heck of a job for the US with 25% of cases, but 4% of the world population

Guess what these countries have in common? (other than being mostly very poor, mismanaged third world countries)

Peru

Bolivia

Chile

Ecuador

Spain

Brazil

They are the ONLY countries in the whole world that have done worse than the US in death/population

I hope you would admit that it is difficult, if not impossible to compare most countries in terms of death statistics and infection rates. Wide ranges and degrees of testing and data recording would make it impossible. So a stat like this: "the US with 25% of cases, but 4% of the world population" sure sounds terrible, but do you really think for a second that the US has 25% of the Covid cases in the world? Do you think it even has 10% of the cases in the world?

The US is top 7-8 in deaths per population with all others third world mismanaged poor countries. Nothing relative about that

Keep in mind the US had a head start of 2 months for preparation

CorrectorII wrote:

The US is top 7-8 in deaths per population with all others third world mismanaged poor countries. Nothing relative about that

According to the above-linked and often consulted site, the top 17 countries in deaths per million population are:

San Marino

Peru

Belgium

Andorra

Spain

Bolivia

Chile

Brazil

Ecuador

UK

USA

Italy

Sweden

Mexico

Panama

France

Colombia

Sint Maarten

Netherlands

Ireland

So, the US is 11th and in good company with other "first world" countries such as San Marino, Andorra, Belgium, Spain, UK, Italy, Sweden, and France, Netherlands and Ireland. So, your statements: "The US is top 7-8 in deaths per population with all others third world mismanaged poor countries. Nothing relative about that." are both wrong. The US is not in the top 7-8 at all, and the top 7-8 is not third world countries - 4 out of top 8 are "first world." Furthermore, "third world" can be pretty subjective - Ecuador, Panama? Not sure they belong on the list you were making.

I meant top 20, not top 17.

Sadly, we just missed the commemoration of Triple Facts Matter Day - 66,000 * 3. I don't miss him and don't need him to come back, but I won't forget how wrong he was. I'm glad he finally did what he said he would and shut up. I wish more of the covid deniers would follow suit.

stephen56 wrote:

stephen56 wrote:

200000 dead with corona. But still yea, quite tragic looking at the excess death this year

Not necessarily from corona

Haven't you heard? "Official" means "true."

If you include the tiny countries of San Marino and Andorra the US is 10th worst, with most other top 10 mismanaged third world countries

So yes, as you proudly point out, it's 9 other countries (and not 7) that have done a WORSE job controlling the number of deaths than the US

Almost There wrote:

This is a gawddam lie. Avg life expectancy as 14 months. Median was 5 month. Thanks for showing the rest of us how mathematically illiterate you are.

Overall deaths have recently dropped below the typical for countries such as Sweden,

implying the deaths really were mostly those that were already on deaths door--a good portion

killed by Covid would normally have been dying now. Not good, but this wasn't the black death

or Spanish flu.

I don't think it was even the 58 or 68 flus. Those, for example, were particularly unpleasant

to pregnant women. Can you imagine the panic in this day and age if the leading cause

of death for pregnant women this year was covid?

For example, for the UK (from a 9/15 Telegraph article):

Just one per cent of deaths now mention coronavirus on the death certificate compared to

12.8 per cent which mention influenza and pneumonia, making those conditions nearly 13

times more deadly.

The numbers of overall deaths has also plummeted well below the five-year average for England and Wales, with 1,443 fewer deaths in the most recent weekly figures.

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For the US, the projected (still getting death certificates for the week but the CDC estimates

how many additional they will get) deaths for the week of August 29 is about 5000 lower than

the average for that week of the year. Eyeballing the chart, it is projected to be the

lowest death week by far in over 3 years--as far as the chart goes back. Note that

this generally is the low week for the year though. Flu should start soon, and if it follows

the UK, Flu will be by far a bigger problem soon in places like New York--if it isn't

already.

Looks like covid may be pretty much over in the US. As long as the vulnerable aren't stupid, it

has killed who it is going to kill--almost certainly it has in the northeast, which was on

a UK type of timeline.

CorrectorII wrote:

If you include the tiny countries of San Marino and Andorra the US is 10th worst, with most other top 10 mismanaged third world countries

So yes, as you proudly point out, it's 9 other countries (and not 7) that have done a WORSE job controlling the number of deaths than the US

I don't see any reason to exclude countries because they are tiny. Both are "first world" countries. And their relative tiny nature perhaps shows that the virus is hard enough to control in small countries, making control in large countries all the more understandably difficult.

This by you: "with most other top 10 mismanaged third world countries" is wrong on its face. It's also misleading as well as wrong when you look at the top 20 (see above). 13 to 15 countries, depending how you categorize them, are "first world" countries in the top 20 in deaths per million citizens. The US is in good company among "first world" countries. Or it's at least close to as bad as the other first world countries. In any case, this: "with most other top 10 mismanaged third world countries" is wrong. If you cut off the list with the US at 11 (which is a misleading way to do it - e.g., like in sports reporting when they say "winner of 4 of last 5" really means "winner of 4 of last 6 and maybe even more loses"), 6 or 7 of the top 11 (depending on whether Ecuador is "third world" - I think it is not) are "first world."

Your original premise was "Heck of a job for the US with 25% of cases, but 4% of the world population." You never answered the questions I had regarding that statement by you. You don't really believe the US has 25% of the Covid cases in the world, do you? You don't believe it even has 10% of the world's cases, do you?

I didn't "proudly point out" anything. I relayed facts to you. You don't need to get all snitty because you are wrong. You should accept it with humility and learn.

Yeah bro whatup b*tch please