Is this because they are too busy doing peaceful protests?
Hardloper wrote:
https://www.king5.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/low-attendance-seattle-public-schools-strong-start-remote-learning/281-d01a9f3c-86bd-4a64-8ed5-9e530770a5be
In a way I don't blame them. Some kids are really smart and can probably figure things out. But if you don't have a teacher to explain things, I would say some subjects are near impossible to do online.
I really shake my head when I hear about online learning. I know there's kahn academy and good resources online. I personally have always preferred the classroom experience of learning.
Part of learning is being in a class with an instructor to explain things.
I’m no fan of SPS (admin that is, many of the teachers are great), but I believe this is the number for kids who logged on with school issues devices. Many kids are using personal devices to log on and they weren’t counted.
kids need to be in school. it might not be 50%, but you are getting a lot of kids who just won't do it. they don't have any personal responsibility. many kids need a year or two of college before they get there. forget about 15, 16 year olds.
on top of that, there is a number of kids not getting on at all. but there are also several kids who get on, but nearly enough.
and the standards are often much lower online.
high school xc coach wrote:
kids need to be in school. it might not be 50%, but you are getting a lot of kids who just won't do it. they don't have any personal responsibility. many kids need a year or two of college before they get there. forget about 15, 16 year olds.
on top of that, there is a number of kids not getting on at all. but there are also several kids who get on, but nearly enough.
and the standards are often much lower online.
How about having some respect for individual autonomy? People should be free to make their own choices, even if I think those choices are stupid.
Greg wrote:
In a way I don't blame them. Some kids are really smart and can probably figure things out. But if you don't have a teacher to explain things, I would say some subjects are near impossible to do online.
I really shake my head when I hear about online learning. I know there's kahn academy and good resources online. I personally have always preferred the classroom experience of learning.
Part of learning is being in a class with an instructor to explain things.
Kahn academy? Remote learning involves logging onto a class with your teacher there. Not studying by yourself all day from third party resources
Because they probably have no computer and/or decent internet access.
Many reasons. One of which is just the requirement of correct technology, hookups, ips, signups, wiring (yes!), Interfacing....etc. And costs of course. Then proper procedures and protocols and maintenance. Not to mention the myriad of unforseen glitches, gremlins, and dumb mistakes. It's a jungle in the cyber world.
My 6th grader was issued a Chromebook. I think she's been issued a Chromebook since 3rd grade. I'm sure most districts are also issuing Chromebooks or similar.
Last I checked 6% of the population does not have internet.
School districts also have contingency plans for those without internet like libraries, mobile internet vans, etc.
Alan
I don't see any serious objection to the idea that kids need to go and be in school with other kids, with teachers and all the experience involved. Just the Social interaction is a major learning necessity. Yes: Being in school with all the trappings and routines ( important) is better for full social growth and development for the kids.
But.
But this pandemic puts things in a perspective that overrides what's ideal, or even just nicer for them.
Life or death is at stake. Horrible situation to face, but I'm not sending my kid in to a place that's not safe or healthy, and is in fact very risky.
Not fault implied. It's just a fact that there is no proven safe or effective vaccine or medicine. The schools cannot provide a safe environment, and as well-meaning and heroic as their intentions are, they do not know enough or have enough or resources good enough or equal to the virus dangers.
Bravo to kids, parents, and teachers, and school staff for their brave idealism, but the school environment is just not equal to or ready to manage real kids and real school situations as currently existent.
Bill G wrote:
Because they probably have no computer and/or decent internet access.
Hahaha .... but have an iPhone and cable ... and “parents” seem to always scrape up money for drugs and booze.
I hate computers so I will never learn this way.
Bill G wrote:
Because they probably have no computer and/or decent internet access.
This is misinformation. School districts provide the technology and also options for internet. Not being able to is not the problem, just not doing it is.
It’s sad really, but the poor liberals that buy everything the media sells them are keeping their kids at home to “stay safe”. In no way is this learning comparable or even acceptable, because a lot of them won’t do it and have no self standards or motivation. Meanwhile, where possible, middle and upper class conservatives are sending their kids back to school. This is only widening the education gap, and what’s sad is the poorer ones are doing it to themselves.
This was also the case in Houston, but there over half never logged in in the Spring. Remote learning does not work at all if you do not have adequate resources and people. A lot of homes lack internet, esp. reliable internet, and sufficient computers.
jamese1045 wrote:
Life or death is at stake. Horrible situation to face, but I'm not sending my kid in to a place that's not safe or healthy, and is in fact very risky.
Virtually no teens or kids have died of COVID
(pun)
I have nearly 95% daily attendance. This is about what it is during regular school sessions.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Last I checked 6% of the population does not have internet.
Alan
You left off a 6 according to this article.
https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/08/cleveland-city-council-launches-effort-to-make-in-home-access-to-the-internet-a-reality-for-all.htmlVirtually.
Better check your stats on that (deaths). And you don't include the "carrier" or transmitter element. Plus, there are after-effects that are very damaging and long term to all.
I don't see that liberal or conservative is a factor except in some people's minds
Unknowns: we are learning more every day about this.
Interesting about attendance. That’s too bad. We are getting better attendance than when on site, by a lot. Our district did it right... Three classes each semester. Online for 30 min then work independently. My kid’s school has 7 classes daily and online for all 50 min. It’s a nightmare.
I really hope “normal” school changes. We all want a normal but schools weren’t working before. It would be a shame after all this to just go back to packing As many kids in a room as you can with no discipline support.
Some children prefer to be home, I think that should be a permanent option. A hybrid would be ideal as you can reduce class sizes and reduce discipline issues. Education needs to modernize and now is the perfect time to do it.