Sir Mo falls short of British Record while Tommy Hughes strikes again with a 71:09 age 60+ WR!

We are now seeing former elites who have aged well.

Most elites no longer have the desire to bust their asses to run times which they may feel are slow.

When they do we see great performances.

Armstronglivs wrote:

. Faster times can be the product of doping. Not to mention that it is exceedingly condescending to some very fine athletes - like Shaheed. .

So you're OK with cutting edge anti-aging technology?

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Correct. Also Nolan Shaheed takes a supplement of dubious legality.

But Hughes couldn't be? And what is the substance of "dubious legality"? That sounds like a fairly dubious claim to me - a substance is banned or it isn't.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

. Faster times can be the product of doping. Not to mention that it is exceedingly condescending to some very fine athletes - like Shaheed. .

So you're OK with cutting edge anti-aging technology?

My first response is to say, where can I get some? But what is "cutting edge anti-aging technology"? Hip surgery? If it isn't doping, I don't care.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Correct. Also Nolan Shaheed takes a supplement of dubious legality.

But Hughes couldn't be? And what is the substance of "dubious legality"? That sounds like a fairly dubious claim to me - a substance is banned or it isn't.

Stemtech. Maybe Hughes is using it but Shaheed definitely is.

Stuff like that, if it does what it claims is just like EPO.

EPO was not always banned either.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Pajac wrote:

Replying to you is stalking but you replying to me is what?

You are the human waste on here though. Your fear mongering is borderline criminal and you have told at least three posters that you wish they catch COVID and die.

Why the brojos tolerate this, especially when one of those posters is their darling Jamin, is something inexplicable.

I have said nothing of the kind. You are seriously delusional. About everything, sadly.

My last post to you and, from now on, I will skip your posts without even reading them.

You have said that, what I mentioned before, on at least two posts that I saw, one addressing Jamin King and another person, the other addressing one single poster. In the first one you were very clear that you were wishing they died of COVID, in the second it was implied.

I reported them both, the second was deleted right away, the first was still there 24 h later and I even took a screenshot that I intended to send to the brojos but totally forgot to.

Whatever.

It's your choice being the way you are, I won't bother with a single reply to you anymore.

Keep on calling people dopers, keep on insulting random people, keep on pushing your fear mongering.

I don't care; I should have never cared, because people like you refuse to change, and it's you who has to live with your conscience and your bitter heart.

Honestly, take care, and I hope you work on becoming a better human being.

Armstronglivs wrote:

My first response is to say, where can I get some?

You can get HGH and T very easily. Did you not know that?

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

We are now seeing former elites who have aged well.

Most elites no longer have the desire to bust their asses to run times which they may feel are slow.

When they do we see great performances.

We are also seeing pros and elites prolong their careers with doping, as well as masters athletes using.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

My first response is to say, where can I get some?

You can get HGH and T very easily. Did you not know that?

That isn't "anti-aging technology"; it is doping that involves banned substances. Yes, they are relatively easy to obtain - which is why they are also being used at masters level.

Like you, no doubt. I stand by my previous comments. You are in your own private universe.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

But Hughes couldn't be? And what is the substance of "dubious legality"? That sounds like a fairly dubious claim to me - a substance is banned or it isn't.

Stemtech. Maybe Hughes is using it but Shaheed definitely is.

Stuff like that, if it does what it claims is just like EPO.

EPO was not always banned either.

If it isn't banned it isn't of "dubious legality". What is your proof a) that it works like EPO, and b) that Shaheed is using it?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Stemtech. Maybe Hughes is using it but Shaheed definitely is.

Stuff like that, if it does what it claims is just like EPO.

EPO was not always banned either.

If it isn't banned it isn't of "dubious legality". What is your proof a) that it works like EPO, and b) that Shaheed is using it?

The dopers and supplement gobblers are always ahead of the tests and what is legal or not. You can research it and decide for yourself if it's an edge

I did not mean it worked in the same manner as EPO as a pure blood booster.

Shaheed says he takes it.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

If it isn't banned it isn't of "dubious legality". What is your proof a) that it works like EPO, and b) that Shaheed is using it?

The dopers and supplement gobblers are always ahead of the tests and what is legal or not. You can research it and decide for yourself if it's an edge

I did not mean it worked in the same manner as EPO as a pure blood booster.

Shaheed says he takes it.

And he would openly admit to something that was either unfair or of "dubious legality"?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

The dopers and supplement gobblers are always ahead of the tests and what is legal or not. You can research it and decide for yourself if it's an edge

I did not mean it worked in the same manner as EPO as a pure blood booster.

Shaheed says he takes it.

And he would openly admit to something that was either unfair or of "dubious legality"?

He has and it does sound unfair if it works like he says..

I will make a try to challenge Hughes! I`m only 4 months older and have been a 14:20 / 29:51 runner at 5000/ 10000 . You never know if you can do it if you don`t try.... :)

I will soon start to register my runs at Strava manual in the beginning before I fix me a GPS watch. You find me at Strava as Coach J.S . Welcome to follow my journey.

To run faster than Tommy at the half I have to do 20 x 400m at 74 sec with about 1 min rest and LT intervals at 3:20 min/ km ( my lifetime best half is 1:06 at a difficult course in Gothenburg Half)

- Reach for the sky and beyond - :)

A little research indicates that Stemtech products are nothing more than a slickly marketed mix of a few herbs and vitamins with a good anti-oxidant content. Probably no more effective than One A Day Proactive 65+ Multivitamin/Multimineral. Magic stem cell beans LOL!

Armstronglivs wrote:

So there isn't as much talent in the shorter distances because the times are not as fast? A circular argument if I ever heard one. Faster times can be the product of doping. Not to mention that it is exceedingly condescending to some very fine athletes - like Shaheed. You also don't get that talent at an elite level doesn't necessarily endure into later life. The athlete who ages least will be the best in masters competition. An Ed Whitlock doesn't need to have been an Olympian in his youth.

Faster times can be a result of doping. Why do you think HM runners are more likely to dope than milers?

And no it isn't disresptful to someone like Shaheed to say he is a 1 in 100k versus the the 1:10 million of an open WR holder. That just is what it is. If your talent pool is a hundred million+ people, you will find those 1 in a million talents. When you talent pool is more like 100k people, it will take a while to find those 1 in a million talents. That is simple math. The fact that one shows up in the HM (i.e. we have 2:14 marathoner who has aged well) before one shows up in the mile (i.e. when we get a 3:55 miler who has aged well) is just chance. This is all simple high school probability and stats...

The Wizard JS wrote:

I will make a try to challenge Hughes! I`m only 4 months older and have been a 14:20 / 29:51 runner at 5000/ 10000 . You never know if you can do it if you don`t try.... :)

I will soon start to register my runs at Strava manual in the beginning before I fix me a GPS watch. You find me at Strava as Coach J.S . Welcome to follow my journey.

To run faster than Tommy at the half I have to do 20 x 400m at 74 sec with about 1 min rest and LT intervals at 3:20 min/ km ( my lifetime best half is 1:06 at a difficult course in Gothenburg Half)

- Reach for the sky and beyond - :)

There is no way in the world that you are going to run 1:11 with 20x400 at 74 on 1 minute rest.

That sounds more like 1:14 to me, if that.