rojo wrote:
If this was me and it was the only team I'd ever make, you'd bet my ass I"d sign whatever waiver USATF wanted me to sign.
So get on their level
rojo wrote:
If this was me and it was the only team I'd ever make, you'd bet my ass I"d sign whatever waiver USATF wanted me to sign.
So get on their level
Walk The Walk wrote:
rojo wrote:
If this was me and it was the only team I'd ever make, you'd bet my ass I"d sign whatever waiver USATF wanted me to sign.
So get on their level
Yeah can't wait for the "rojo is back baby" thread when that happens
he makes 7 figures for what? wrote:
First, Max cancels USAs. Now he's deciding not to send a team to World Half.
https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1304430553421287425What a joke. If I'm paying someone more than a million bucks a year, I expect them to lead.
Seemingly all of Europe - even the UK which has a higher death rate than the US - has managed to hold a national champs in track.
Can't the athletes themselves decide if they want to go or not and not some 7-figure guy?
get rid of Max and sue him.
Waitaminute wrote:
According to the notice, the USATF COVID group of medical experts unanimously recommended to NOT send a team. The US State Department has a Level 3 travel advisory for Poland (and basically all of Europe) recommending that people not travel.
Should USATF ignore their own medical experts and the US State Department to send a team? Wejo talks about a lawsuit. There is your lawsuit.
The constant knee-jerk reaction by the Johnsons and this website against everything that Siegel and USATF does is tiring.
FYI to the Brojos- USATF has a COVID Working Group. This wasn't a decision by one person.
https://www.usatf.org/covid19Those worried about US Elites:
We will likely have a very fast half-marathon in the next 6 weeks that all of the major clubs will be attending. Here in the United States.
I feel bad for US athletes. The national governing body has made no effort to host events in a covid-secure way meaning that a lot of people have lost a year of their career. Meanwhile, in Europe you have national champs and international meets without a single case of the virus emanating from any of them. It's not perfect but at least athletes can make a living and compete at a high level. USATF seems content with BTC time trials
The COVID rhetoric is beyond embarrassing at this point. I look to four more years of you crying about grandmas frail health must be protected at any cost.
I wonder if some elite US athletes can just show up and run independently.
Nostradamus1 wrote:
Those worried about US Elites:
We will likely have a very fast half-marathon in the next 6 weeks that all of the major clubs will be attending. Here in the United States.
From Fast Women:
"Ben Rosario revealed that he, Josh Cox and Matt Helbig are working to put on a marathon in December. I’d heard the whispers, but this was the first public acknowledgement of the event that I’m aware of. Rosario said not everything has been finalized and he can’t say for sure that it’s happening, but they have a lot of interest from top athletes across the country. He said they’d like to do it in the Phoenix area, have 50 women and 50 men, do all the necessary Covid testing, and hold it on a loop course, which is easier to pull off than closing 26 miles of roads. He said they’re working on getting sponsors and figuring out broadcast options. Again, nothing is final, but this is something to keep an eye on."
Max made his decision. You just disagree with it.
Feel free to list even ONE example of a "fit" athlete dying from covid. Remember, we're talking about national class athletes here. I'll even take an example of a high(er) level athlete who couldn't break 15min after covid... yep, I'll wait....
considering consequences wrote:
good god. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. plenty of healthy, fit, young folks have died from this. plenty more have serious, lasting symptoms. that you don't know any of them doesn't tell us much, other than that you may not know many people.
.
Focus on your own country ma'am. Here in America the president is far from the problem.
considering consequences wrote:
good god. absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. plenty of healthy, fit, young folks have died from this. plenty more have serious, lasting symptoms. that you don't know any of them doesn't tell us much, other than that you may not know many people.
For the sake of argument, I'm going to agree that "plenty of healthy, fit, young folks have died from this" because I'm too lazy to find evidence to refute that. But you can find a tiny number of healthy, fit, young folks have died from literally everything and yet we don't go to extremes to mitigate risk for anything else.
And, no, I'm not being an anti-mask, anti-social distance, covid denier here. I'm simply saying that there are protocols in place that would have made this a relatively simple event to participate in.
he makes 7 figures for what? wrote:
First, Max cancels USAs. Now he's deciding not to send a team to World Half.
https://twitter.com/d9monti/status/1304430553421287425What a joke. If I'm paying someone more than a million bucks a year, I expect them to lead.
Seemingly all of Europe - even the UK which has a higher death rate than the US - has managed to hold a national champs in track.
Can't the athletes themselves decide if they want to go or not and not some 7-figure guy?
They should not be sending teams if they can't freaking medal anyway. THE US needs to bow out of more international meetings (i.e. soccer )
Classic loser Gen Xer. Won’t win so why try?
rojo wrote:
The reason why this pisses me off is the same reason why running only 30 people in the 1500s at the US Olympic TraiLs pisses me off. It's clear that USATF doesn't care at all about the 'b' team athletes or realize that this is their DREAM. When you run 30 in a 3-round Olympic trials, it's terrible for fans to go from 30 to 24 in round 1 and it's also worse for the atheltes. Instead of having 48 people who can brag for their whole life they were in the Olympic Trials, you only have 30. So the fans and the athletes lose out.
That is why swimming can nearly equal track's Oly Trials impact - they bring in the ame number of athletes for half the slots (roughly). Extend the meet by a few days and add rounds for numbers 31-75 or whatever (top 24 or so get byes into final 2-3 rounds). Those guys would pay their way, fill hotels before the elites show up (more $$ for USATF and locals) and -most importantly- be inspired to stay in the sport for an ultimate goal. Those guys and gals are grad assistants and running store workers. They will be coaches and inspirations that keep our sport going. The cut down from 36 or 40 to 30 was asinine -the Chaplins and Hightowers and Seigels thought lower numbers meant more control, when greater numbers could have transformed our sport.
runderun wrote:
I feel bad for US athletes.
I don't! Running isn't a real career. It's a hobby that can pay (poorly) for a short timespan.
Canada withdraws from World Half-Marathon, citing spike in COVID cases in Poland as one of the factors. We may be approaching where the Johnsons may need to admit that USATF made the proper call on this one.
Waitaminute2 wrote:
Canada withdraws from World Half-Marathon, citing spike in COVID cases in Poland as one of the factors. We may be approaching where the Johnsons may need to admit that USATF made the proper call on this one.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/trackandfield/athletics-canada-withdraws-half-marathon-championships-1.5761296
Canada?
lol