Affluent White student-athletes are profiting from the labor of their poor Black peers

there is pretty no such thing as a black american.

they're mixed.

in america thought they blend in together now, they try to keep a race war going.

there is no black and white,

it is all in your minds from brainwashing.

get rid of your color stereotypes and classifications.

its childish.

cry me a river wrote:

Ronald Raegan wrote:

When I'm driving around the MAJOR multi-cultural American city I live in, who do I see building things? The construction workers who are vast majority Hispanic. I also see Hispanic landscapers doing real work. Hard work. That's about it!

So you're saying white people are lazy?

I see a lot of lazy white people...

talented big wrote:

Whi is it relevant to know the race of the victim? Dies it make the crime okay? Bottom line is that blacks are a net drain on the economy while whites are a net gain.

I take issue with your last statement since 78% of the country is white. Far more white people in absolute numbers on welfare than blacks.

My point on the victims is that the myth is that the victims of black criminals are white when that is not the case on a scale.

zxczxcv wrote:

The report has no insane premise. It shows that African American athletes, by starring in revenue-generating sports, are making it possible, by drawing paying fans and tv contracts, to attract enormous amounts of money, well beyond their own scholarships and benefits, to pay for enormous coaching contracts, facilities upgrades, and non-revenue sports, most of which benefit affluent white students and coaches. The athletes are getting a benefit but they are generating far more money than they are benefited, which means that they are being exploited, and it is the NCAA rules barring them from compensation that prevent them from earning as much as they can from the highest bidder, which is unlike every other area in American society.

I would say the NCAA does not bar them from earning as much as they can, the NFL and NBA do in that they require a period of time after one's class (or one has) has graduated from high school to be eligible to play. Yes, the NCAA has restrictions (I am pro-NIL rights), but the NFL and NBA set the rules. (Baseball is much freer in that restrictions occur once a player decides to go to college and college is used as a negotiating tool by the player in some cases).

Also re the NFL and NBA, those rules are negotiated with the players' associations. In essence, the current players are complicit in restricting the market and keeping out players.

Basketball has alternative systems whether it is the G League or playing professionally overseas.

Talent is a pretty nebulous term. I would say being a doctor or engineer requires some sort of "talent" or aptitude just as being a NFL QB does. A big difference is that there are thousands of jobs for engineers and doctors but only a few dozen for pro athletes. Also, you control your own destiny (if I may) in professions where being average is still good enough to make a living.

I lean toward the education being a way out, but I fear that we have put so much into getting a college degree that it is skewing things (says a guy with 2 master's degrees). We push college and yet so many go and cannot make it so they are saddled with debt that is hard to pay off. Maybe the person chose a college out of his/her league---just too academically challenging. Or maybe a minority student chooses a very white college and just never feels at home and does poorly. Malcolm Gladwell (whom I generally find "meh") does make a good point about it is better to be a big fish in the small academic pond than the other way around.

The effect is true regardless of race. Lots of white people go to college and never finish. There is an interesting take on this that a college degree is really just signalling as many leave college having learned very little in terms of academics.

I take issue with this "rich people screw over poor people" line of thought. Yes, there are some bad folks who are rich, but I think a lot do a great deal for people. Rich people provide jobs for others. You might think their big boat is excessive, but the people who built that boat and sold it are happy to have done so and get paid for it.

I know lots of rich folks who want to do the right thing for others. I think sometimes it might be misguided but they mean well through charitable contributions. The cynics will say they are just buying whatever, but at the end of the day that money goes to the soup kitchen or shelter.

I am all for NIL rights just like Olympics athletes have. They receive relatively little in salary from their NGBs (the NGBs that even give stipends) so they make money on endorsements and prize money.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

That massive pie is being devoured at the moment by overhead expenses. College sports could not afford the infrastructure, let alone athlete salaries in hard times. In the past athletics was just a path to an education, asking for more is a perversion of academics. Covid 19 points out the problem and fallacy of the current system. Same is true for the university system as a whole.

Or college athletics so flush in cash spend like crazy on things like $1M locker rooms and such because they had to spend the money (similar argument with coach salaries across all sports).

Pokey Thomas wrote:

More BS propaganda from the left. If the poor black football and basketball players feel oppressed then they should not take part in college athletics. No one has a gun to their head to live the life of a king, be treated better than anyone on campus and receive a free education. Sounds really tough.

How about the fact that the money these players are supposedly generating is mostly coming from white fans. Let's stop with the race insanity and searching for oppression where there is none. It demeans the people that are actually oppressed in this world.

I think you're missing some factors here. In terms of class attendance, basketball players miss a lot because of travel for big tournaments. Football players have fewer games, but they spend a huge amount of time each day working out, watching tape, and lifting. These sports are, obviously, predominantly black. Additionally, unless you've been living under a rock, the amount of CTE from football careers is become more widely known. So those collegiate football players are suffering brain injuries in addition to causing permanent, lifelong damage to their bodies. Basketball doesn't generate brain injuries, but it is also hard on the body, especially the knees and back.

These students don't truly get to take the courses they're registered for so they don't get the "free education" they are promised by the university. While the usefulness of a college degree isn't what it once was, it does massively help with upward economic mobility and ability to build wealth. They aren't paid and the sports take up so much of their day that they cannot hold a part time job or internship to build their resumes while in college. They suffer life long injuries that will impede them in various ways for life.

So they don't get a degree, end up physically (and mentally for football players) worse, and are now older with no work experience. Most take the scholarship to try and get out of the lower class and don't get the opportunity, skills, or knowledge to actually do so

Distance runners at major universities miss more class than any other type of athlete. They miss many days during cross country and then miss Wed-Thur-Fri almost every week during track season.

old news wrote:

Technically, they could use the free education to get of a life of crime. Not only that but if they go to a low performing school how little effort would it take to be valedictorian or top 10%, you don’t even have to compete with the affluent kids. Then when you apply to college look at all the minority grants and scholarships they could get. But, that requires effort and it’s so much easier to cry oppression and racism and look for a free handout from the government.

I live in LA so I have knowledge about LAUSD and in Southern California, it doesn't play out this way. The valedictorians or top 10% of a poor high school do get into good colleges. However, the high schools they attend are immensely weak.

Taking math as an easy example, seniors are taught geometry at the most. So no algebra 2, trig, pre-calc, calculus, stats, or basic linear algebra. So, yes, they are high ranking. But when they get to college, they are so massively behind, many drop out because they can't learn two to four years of high school math in addition to their current coursework. This applies across all subjects. Poor English skills, not knowing how to write a paper longer than three or four pages, being fairly scientifically illiterate.