Cal State(Pa) football player dies from complications of Covid

Hi Allen,

This article doesn't support what you are asserting and your language is inflammatory and unnecessary. What is he lying about? I am sure that you are a nice person, but the message that you are suggesting is paranoid and not based on any rigorous scientific evaluation of COVID testing.

Thanks

The lie is twofold. One that this kid died from Covid. Even if we assume SARS-COV-2 is novel, never been established scientifically, there are no reliable tests to establish cases or deaths "from."

Secondly is the lie, "that even young people can die from Covid" which is implicit in this fabrication and others the media hypes.

In the study I cited the relevant aspect is the 1 in 19.1 million part. Did you get to that?

What I am basing it on is most definitely rigorous and scientific what this garbage post is based on is pure emotional manipulation.

kid from PA wrote:

Juice moved like a guy 200 pounds less. He was in shape.

Additionally, the whole city loved this dude. No one you meet in Pittsburgh will ever have anything bad to say about him. I never had the chance to personally talk to him, but he left an incredible legacy as a football player, student, and friend to all.

RWG Juice.

+1. I met him at a track meet and he was so joyful, just wanted to be friends with everybody. The girls on our team absolutely LOVED him.

We can debate covid all we want, but please remember it affects real people who didn't deserve any of this. Let's try not to be so callous.

Very sad, but what is the infection fatality rate for people his age? Roughly 0.1% (about 10 out of 100,000), and that may be erring on the high side.

The all-cause fatality rate for people 15-24 is about 0.07% (7 out of 100,000).

Having COVID isn't much more of a danger to this age group than simply being alive at all.

Still a very sad story and a terrible loss for his family and friends.

65 kids in Florida now have the multiple inflammation syndrome caused by COVID.

zxcvxvzc wrote:

65 kids in Florida now have the multiple inflammation syndrome caused by COVID.

Well sourced ^^^^if you can't trust zxcvxvzc, who can you trust?

By your logic no infection could ever be considered novel; how do you prove that at no time in the history of human existence a person was never infected by a newly recognized disease? As far as what this young man died from, the article says that the cause of death wasn't officially announced, but that the university stated that he died from COVID, no way to know any more than that unless someone knows him or his family personally or took care of him. How do you know how anyone dies? How do you know that anything is real? By your logic about COVID there is no way to know how anyone ever dies from an infection or really any illness for that matter.

This is a sad story affecting a real person; not sure what intentions of all of these posts arguing how virulent COVID is or isn't or whether African Americans have higher rates of diabetes, but it really is all in poor taste and not contributing anything productive.

From this report, he might not have died from COVID-19.

https://sports.yahoo.com/california-u-of-pennsylvania-player-jamain-stephens-jr-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-214903039.html

It appears the initial report was either erroneous or premature.

Sorry for those seeking this to fit some agenda.

I cannot imagine what it would be like to lose your kid. (And yes he is an adult, but he is someone's kid regardless of age).

I don't think you should be a mod if you are threatening to ban people you disagree with. Will have to report you to the Brojos for review of mod status.

Looks like the link on the homepage needs to be updated to reflect the fact that they have retracted COVID as a cause of death.

So now are you and the OP going to apologize to everyone? I don't think you have it in you. Don't ever try to lecture anyone on poor taste.

You see it is you Covid fanatics that are hideous human beings. Using everything and everyone for your purposes. Even the death of a young man (or anyone) is of no consequence to you people.

I do mean it when I say your are a bunch of psychotic misanthropes. Now apologize to everyone.

And still all the apologies offered aren't going to help the thousands and millions that are suffering and/or dying because of your Covid derangement syndrome that fuels the government policies that are destroying lives everywhere.

There are ways to determine cause of death- you diagnose them. Been done for centuries- but not for this unique time. Now the con artists use a scam test that was never designed for diagnostic purposes and can't do so in order to create this swindle.

They won’t apologize because like our “volunteer mod”, they are feckless cowards.

Do you know how many suicides are caused by head injuries? Watch the movie "Concussion". It's NUTS. If your worried about one morbidly obese kid playing football you at least should do your homework on the big killer. Frontal lobe damage.

Maybe I missed it, but no one has mentioned that this school was not even engaging in football, as far as I can tell. Their conference suspended competition back in July. This player would not have caught a virus from practice or a game. Collegiate sports did not cause this (unless you blame football for his comorbidity, which is a fair point).

Sports maybe could have prevented it. I work at a Division I school where sports are continuing. I think it is worth noting that the infection rate of the athletic department (where everyone is tested 2-5 times a month depending on in season or not) is substantially lower than the locality we reside in.

I think this is because 1) athletes are getting more oversight from staff and coaches than general population. 2) the majority of college athletes want to compete and realize that getting infected will result in them being held out for a substantial amount of time. Athletes with a season are making better social distancing decisions because of coaching pressure and self accountability.

+1

Pajac wrote:

impracticaljoker wrote:

They won’t apologize because like our “volunteer mod”, they are feckless cowards.

+1

+2 For those just joining, this was more agenda driven, covid fetish/fatalist, nonsense. See above for retraction of COVID cause of death. But hey, in spite of this, and the mountainous stack of other examples of covid hyperbole, you must quit quit being at all skeptical, and fall in line, or be ridiculed out of the public space. You must obey...you must obey...believe us, not your own eyes, we know what is best for you...you must obey...you must obey...

WWRD wrote:

Pajac wrote:

+1

+2 For those just joining, this was more agenda driven, covid fetish/fatalist, nonsense. See above for retraction of COVID cause of death. But hey, in spite of this, and the mountainous stack of other examples of covid hyperbole, you must quit quit being at all skeptical, and fall in line, or be ridiculed out of the public space. You must obey...you must obey...believe us, not your own eyes, we know what is best for you...you must obey...you must obey...

2+2=5. watch out, you may be looking at a ban for your unwillingness to comply.

joedirt wrote:

A lot of this is actually tied to a person's immune response to the virus and not damage from the virus itself (meaning a vaccine may have similar impacts). The virus is not disappearing, so an individual's immune system will have to face it eventually.

Don't spread this BS. This is why we test vaccines.

Allen53 wrote:

You see it is you Covid fanatics that are hideous human beings. Using everything and everyone for your purposes. Even the death of a young man (or anyone) is of no consequence to you people.

I do mean it when I say your are a bunch of psychotic misanthropes. Now apologize to everyone.

The only COVID fanatic I see is the one with 50 posts a day about it. I appreciate your sudden introspection, though.

Harambe wrote:

joedirt wrote:

A lot of this is actually tied to a person's immune response to the virus and not damage from the virus itself (meaning a vaccine may have similar impacts). The virus is not disappearing, so an individual's immune system will have to face it eventually.

Don't spread this BS. This is why we test vaccines.

You obviously haven't read about cytokine storms or the history of attempts at a SARS vaccine. The attempts at a SARS vaccine failed because of elevated immune response (known as vaccine induced enhancement) when lab animals that had initially demonstrating a good antibody response to the vaccine all died when they came into contact with the wild virus.

All of these vaccines getting fast tracked to stage 3 have shown the same initial antibody results as the earlier SARS vaccines. They are a disaster waiting to happen.