Marine with Lot of Muscle Claims to Run Under 18:00 for 3 miles

How many times, Bart?

Skip to 6:00 mark where he describes how he keeps his run time under 18:00. He said you must do interval sprints, not just slow long running.

I like Austen's tips:

Week 1 - Sprint 400 meters everyday.

Week2 - Sprint 800 meters everyday.

WeekN - Sprint 400 X N meters everyday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXGZFmzmZA

I work with a bodybuilder who is about 5'10" and 180 but looks huge. He runs about 20MPW and told me he does all at 6:15 pace. I invited him to do a 3 mile tempo with me and he was talking the whole time going 6-6-5:50.

talent over wrote:

I work with a bodybuilder who is about 5'10" and 180 but looks huge. He runs about 20MPW and told me he does all at 6:15 pace. I invited him to do a 3 mile tempo with me and he was talking the whole time going 6-6-5:50.

Let me guess ... he was talking ... about himself... the whole time.

Hah. Good. But he is actually decent guy. Second marriage at 37 and a kid with 2nd wife. I tried to convince him to focus on runni g. He could run 15:59 at 40.

Haha. Yeah it's possible to have muscles and be able to run long distances while not being a twig.

talent over wrote:

Hah. Good. But he is actually decent guy. Second marriage at 37 and a kid with 2nd wife. I tried to convince him to focus on runni g. He could run 15:59 at 40.

Sounds like a cool guy. Like you, I also believe that everybody who has been married only once or failed to concieve a child with their second wife is a bad person. But this guy you know checks off all my criteria for a decent guy.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

I like Austen's tips:

Week 1 - Sprint 400 meters everyday.

Week2 - Sprint 800 meters everyday.

WeekN - Sprint 400 X N meters everyday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXGZFmzmZA

This is what you have to do if you don't want to lose a lot of that muscle and still be reasonably fast. No one running a bunch of easy miles will be able to maintain a body-builder physique. That said, it's not a good distance training program for someone wanting to achieve their best times. Obviously, if he started running a ton of easy miles, he'd be sub 16 min, probably within a year, and probably is talented enough to break 15min within a couple of years. He'd lose a ton of muscle though, which he probably doesn't want to do.

This rock climber is somewhat similar, running one lap short of 3 miles in 16:40 in his first-time time-trial ever.

Notice how he left out the part where he proves he can run 18 min 3 mile lol? That's because he can't I bet he cannot even do ONE mile at that pace.

How many times Bart?

I joined the Marine Corps after one years of D1 Cross Country and Track with a 14:40 5k PR assuming I'd be the fastest thing they'd ever seen. Boy was I wrong. There were a few 40something year old staff officers on post, with no track experience, that could outrun me.

Even during war time, the most important evaluations in a Marine's file, regardless of his paygrade, are his PFT and Rifle Marksmanship scores.

O.P., you seem to like and respect all U.S. service personnel. Please contact your U.S. Senators, and your U.S. Congressperson and tell politicians Marines need new amphibious troop transport vehicles. An Amtrac A.A.V. sunk near coast of CA several weeks ago. Amtracs used by U.S.M.C. are all over 35 years old. They are damaged and corroded. The 35 year old Amtracs are too slow on water, too slow on land, do not protect Marines from assault and have limited offensive fire power. U.S.M.C. has gotten rid of their tanks and have eliminated tank battalions. Please tell your politicians Marines need modern vehicles. Parents, do not send your kids into U.S.M.C. until Marines get new proper vehicles. A parent may say: My little Johnny is going into Marines to be an air traffic controller. Those infantry vehicles do not apply to my son. Once enough infantrymen are killed or wounded, all swing d!cks are pulled of their desk jobs then place in rifle platoons.

Mr Reasonable is back wrote:

talent over wrote:

Hah. Good. But he is actually decent guy. Second marriage at 37 and a kid with 2nd wife. I tried to convince him to focus on runni g. He could run 15:59 at 40.

Sounds like a cool guy. Like you, I also believe that everybody who has been married only once or failed to concieve a child with their second wife is a bad person. But this guy you know checks off all my criteria for a decent guy.

So good.

Weirdly specific. But okay, I can believe it. I know the congress bought like a few billion in fancy tanks the military said it didnt want.

MatthewXCountry wrote:

This rock climber is somewhat similar, running one lap short of 3 miles in 16:40 in his first-time time-trial ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgS-zRXKGWg&ab_channel=MagnusMidtb%C3%B8

I think that rock climber does way more cardio/running than he let's people believe.

VroomVroom wrote:

Haha. Yeah it's possible to have muscles and be able to run long distances while not being a twig.

Too general of a statement.

Steroid using or light steroid using guys will always have muscle no matter how much distance they do.

Naturals typically don't. But yet that depends on the mileage. Among other factors.

How much distance are you talking about here?

ive been a runner most my life and just recently gained a lot of muscle mass. right now i'm 5'11" 185 and ran a 3 mile tempo in 16.50 the other day. not too hard if you have 25 years of base.

edward teech wrote:

ive been a runner most my life and just recently gained a lot of muscle mass. right now i'm 5'11" 185 and ran a 3 mile tempo in 16.50 the other day. not too hard if you have 25 years of base.

What’s interesting though is that Ryan Hall and Nick Symmonds can’t, with all their running background, though. They did a TT together and finished I believe in the mid—18s. They are more focused on muscle mass now, but RH had an INCREDIBLE base.