Hardloper wrote:
Does he have his own personal domestique? That guy with the mustache was pacing his workouts/TTs in Boulder and now he's moved to Seattle and the same guy is still there pacing for him. Even when he went to pace Allie for 3k, his pacer paced his pacing.
Ari keeps referring to himself as the devil when really he is Robin.
NERunner053 wrote:
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
I can't believe people are saying 4:02 is a good result. This is a guy who just signed a pro contract.
Brooks should have made him run these time trials before signing him. They probably are regretting their decision now.
Ok #1 only on LRC do we find ways to bash sub-4 milers chasing their dreams for running a 4:02 basically solo after driving across the country with no races going on.
#2 Beasts guys ran over 1:50 for 800, over 3:45 for 1500, & over 8:00 for 3000 during the Big Friendly Meets. I'm not here to bash any of that. It's a weird time rn. Let's not overthink the results we do get.
#3 Brooks is not going to rethink this signing. He is the one guy on the roster that is actually going to help sell the brand. If you can't see that, idk what to tell you. If you just don't like that, that's fine but Spencer still trains hard & wants to get better -- he just happens to be good at promoting himself & now his new brand.
#4 It has been said multiple times but his contract isn't a full contract. He has a tryout for 1.5 years to hit the times necessary to become a full team member. It's a good partnership for him (because his college times wouldn't have gotten him a team slot at this level) & for Brooks (views/clicks).
I've been following TAS for a bit. He puts out cool content. The daily grind videos are super cool & insightful. He's working hard & chasing running goals. Hate all you want but this is a unique opportunity for a runner just a cut below national class runners to train above his weight class to see if he can get there. Looking forward to following the ride. Looking forward to avoiding the hate that comes from this place.
+1
He goes 3:57 in a good conditions race right now.
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
Belarussiya wrote:
He ran two slow laps with a guy who is very poor at pacing at 61 seconds . I reckon he could have ran 60.5, 59,60, 60 with better pacing.
If the first laps were too slow for him then he should have been able to close in a 56.
He could have passed the pacer at any time but he waited until 1k. Man up and do it solo instead of whining about pacers.
Stop being a fanboy and use your brain. Pro runner runs 4:02 mile. He's losing to a high school sophomore.
GTFO with 4:02 being "high school sophomore"
maybe at the national level, but the winning 1500m time from 2019 NCAAs was 3:41.39, translates to a 3:58. Keep in mind this is at an actual meet with structured schedules vs a weird time with covid and essentially a solo time trial after just moving.
Also Brooks likely cares a hell of a lot more about the 51 thousand youtube followers and 25 thousand instagram vs a few seconds here or there.
Swim Bike Run wrote:
GTFO with 4:02 being "high school sophomore"
maybe at the national level, but the winning 1500m time from 2019 NCAAs was 3:41.39, translates to a 3:58. Keep in mind this is at an actual meet with structured schedules vs a weird time with covid and essentially a solo time trial after just moving.
Also Brooks likely cares a hell of a lot more about the 51 thousand youtube followers and 25 thousand instagram vs a few seconds here or there.
As a factual matter, a high school sophomore ran 4:01 this year. It's hilarious you compare his time to NCAA runners in 2019...forgetting that HE WAS IN THE NCAA then. He didn't even make it out of the east region.
The 3:41 at NCAAs was in a similar pace then they closed in 54. Spencer could only manage a 59 second last lap off of that pace.
They would not have run a time trial if there wasn't a reasonable expectation of running well. They could have waited a couple days if he was tired. You can't quite use the excuse "it was only a time trial" when people have broken national records in time trials this summer.
lt man wrote:As a factual matter, a high school sophomore ran 4:01 this year. It's hilarious you compare his time to NCAA runners in 2019...forgetting that HE WAS IN THE NCAA then. He didn't even make it out of the east region.
The 3:41 at NCAAs was in a similar pace then they closed in 54. Spencer could only manage a 59 second last lap off of that pace.
They would not have run a time trial if there wasn't a reasonable expectation of running well. They could have waited a couple days if he was tired. You can't quite use the excuse "it was only a time trial" when people have broken national records in time trials this summer.
Is 4:02 that bad of a result for someone with a 3:59 PR? It’s not like he was gonna run 3:54 or something like that under any circumstances. I’d say it’s an apples to oranges comparison to look at Spencer’s time trial compared to what Bowermen set up for their athletes.
Mountie Up wrote:
lt man wrote:As a factual matter, a high school sophomore ran 4:01 this year. It's hilarious you compare his time to NCAA runners in 2019...forgetting that HE WAS IN THE NCAA then. He didn't even make it out of the east region.
The 3:41 at NCAAs was in a similar pace then they closed in 54. Spencer could only manage a 59 second last lap off of that pace.
They would not have run a time trial if there wasn't a reasonable expectation of running well. They could have waited a couple days if he was tired. You can't quite use the excuse "it was only a time trial" when people have broken national records in time trials this summer.
Is 4:02 that bad of a result for someone with a 3:59 PR? It’s not like he was gonna run 3:54 or something like that under any circumstances. I’d say it’s an apples to oranges comparison to look at Spencer’s time trial compared to what Bowermen set up for their athletes.
Sorry but I NEED him under 4.
Thanks
Maybe time for him to bump up to 3k/5k..
Swim Bike Run wrote:
fact checker 642572498 wrote:
If the first laps were too slow for him then he should have been able to close in a 56.
He could have passed the pacer at any time but he waited until 1k. Man up and do it solo instead of whining about pacers.
Stop being a fanboy and use your brain. Pro runner runs 4:02 mile. He's losing to a high school sophomore.
GTFO with 4:02 being "high school sophomore"
maybe at the national level, but the winning 1500m time from 2019 NCAAs was 3:41.39, translates to a 3:58. Keep in mind this is at an actual meet with structured schedules vs a weird time with covid and essentially a solo time trial after just moving.
Also Brooks likely cares a hell of a lot more about the 51 thousand youtube followers and 25 thousand instagram vs a few seconds here or there.
Bad example. NCAAs are tactical. Try again
When is he going to move up to the thon?
He just needs to race with the actual team. I think he could potentially run 4:57 all out with real competition.
I find it odd that there are an equal number of people here that want to see him fail as succeed. What’s the reasoning behind that?
Bahstun wrote:
I find it odd that there are an equal number of people here that want to see him fail as succeed. What’s the reasoning behind that?
I find it odd to see threads dedicated to a guy who is struggling to maybe make a middling elite group and will struggle just to qualify for the OT, let alone get a sniff at a semifinal berth. This kind of thread would have been summarily laughed off on here 2000-2012, what's different now?
seedog25 wrote:
Maybe time for him to bump up to 3k/5k..
Why not try and get the mile time down to something equating to national class before moving up? What 3k or 5K is he going to win if he can only run a 4:02?
Can we talk about the haircut?
Regardless I'm sure he knows this could be his last chance. He has no more excuses anymore; he's training with a new coach, probably doesn't have to waste much energy traveling because of Covid, and has knowledge handed down from running in University.
Whatever he does this next year is going to set him up if he becomes a pro or becomes hobby jogger.
I guesses correctly wrote:
Can we talk about the haircut?
The top comment in one of his videos was for a "mullet", which I upvoted.
He then tried out the haircut for the first time. It's doesn't look that bad on him.
Does anyone know what the time requirements are to get the full contract?
everybody talking shite in here is a f-ing loser, let the man do what he wants and try to get as fast as he can and if Brooks is willing to pay, so be it, I’m sorry it’s so “laughable” to you that you need to spend time writing your personal critique of him, grow tf up you fucking man babies
Bahstun wrote:
I find it odd that there are an equal number of people here that want to see him fail as succeed. What’s the reasoning behind that?
Just jealous. We should all be happy for the guy.
cb wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Does he have his own personal domestique? That guy with the mustache was pacing his workouts/TTs in Boulder and now he's moved to Seattle and the same guy is still there pacing for him. Even when he went to pace Allie for 3k, his pacer paced his pacing.
Ari keeps referring to himself as the devil when really he is Robin.
Pacing aside, that Ari guys come across as such a gigantic doucebag. I really like Spencer, but I groan whenever Ari appears onscreen.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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