Mo ran 233 meters further than a half marathon in one hour flat on a track with pacers and wave lights. Cool run and WR to watch but how does it translate to the world of more commonly contested events against top runners. I doubt he can compete with Bekele or Kipchoge any time soon in the full marathon but could he be one of the world’s best half marathoners? Can’t really decide how this performance translates.
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Mo ran 233 meters further than a half marathon in one hour flat on a track with pacers and wave lights. Cool run and WR to watch but how does it translate to the world of more commonly contested events against top runners. I doubt he can compete with Bekele or Kipchoge any time soon in the full marathon but could he be one of the world’s best half marathoners? Can’t really decide how this performance translates.
Mo' Farah, Mo' Problems.
Jack Daniels equates his performance to 59:14 (he went through in 59:21). I think all the turns you make on the track must be worth around 10-15 seconds. He wasn’t wearing alphaflys either so maybe 58:40 +/- 10 seconds?
Interesting that you estimate he’s be faster on the roads. I would’ve thought track with pacers would be ideal.
he only did it to get publicity. he's done in the 5k and 10k and that undisputed. his full marathon isn't notable and hes quite old so he has no shot at that either. i 100% doubt he could compete with bekele or kipchoge, but they also don't even really run the half so thats not a problem for him. as far as the half itself is concerned, he might be able to be a top finisher in a few races, but i don't see him winning anything with real competition or setting any records. the one hour run record was a joke and was never seriously contended (haile did it in 2007 and it was his in between phase between his half and marathon records.). i doubt anyone will break mo's record because no one cares enough to do it. case closed, he just wanted to make a buzz while he still can and say he has 2 "wrs" (both in seldomly ran events)
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Interesting that you estimate he’s be faster on the roads. I would’ve thought track with pacers would be ideal.
I think for most events that is the case but it’s a big jump from 10k>half marathon. With less turns, slightly downhill or uphill terrain, and proper shoes I think he definitely could have gone a decent amount faster.
I also don’t understand the hate for Farah. 3:28>2:05 marathon and people criticize him wanting to get a world record in a pretty niche event. I think it’s naive to assume he would be the best marathoner after so much track domination. A lot of marathoners move up after little success on the track, Mo is the opposite
I am so sick of this "Mo is weak" BS. He was undefeated in championships for like 7 or 8 years. He's a top 3 racer all-time and he's run 26:4x twice. He's legit
When will a reporter be brave enough to ask him about those arm sleeves and what they are hiding?
[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:
I am so sick of this "Mo is weak" BS. He was undefeated in championships for like 7 or 8 years. He's a top 3 racer all-time and he's run 26:4x twice. He's legit
yeah a top 3 racer. what is he for top fastest runner? mr worldwide is only top 16th fastest 10000m runner, and he isn't even top 25 in the 5000m. why are you hyping him up? he sits on other people that are bad, and then kicks. like come on, galen rupp finished 2nd in london 2012 and he is definitely not the 2nd best racer in the world. please put prime mo farah vs prime bekele and see what happens
What a dumb question. What do you think it takes to be "world class" in the half marathon? Is 59:20 not good enough?
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When will a reporter be brave enough to ask him about those arm sleeves and what they are hiding?
I know, right? It’s really weird. You see pics of him shirtless wearing them. The claim that it “cools you” makes no sense to me, but maybe I just haven’t read a valid explanation. Also, he wore the spiked version of the vaporfly super shoe- the zoomX dragonfly.
What a dumb insinuation. You honestly think he's 1.) injecting 2.) injecting in his arms 3.) injecting in his arms SO much that he has to wear arm sleeves in practice and races so that the cameras can see.
That seems more likely to you than him just liking arm sleeves?
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[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:
I am so sick of this "Mo is weak" BS. He was undefeated in championships for like 7 or 8 years. He's a top 3 racer all-time and he's run 26:4x twice. He's legit
yeah a top 3 racer. what is he for top fastest runner? mr worldwide is only top 16th fastest 10000m runner, and he isn't even top 25 in the 5000m. why are you hyping him up? he sits on other people that are bad, and then kicks. like come on, galen rupp finished 2nd in london 2012 and he is definitely not the 2nd best racer in the world. please put prime mo farah vs prime bekele and see what happens
Okay Ricky Bobby. "If you ain't first, you're last". You act like top 16 all-time is chump change. I bet you weren't even top 16 on your schools all-time lists. He's run sub 13, sub 27, and sub 60mins (and by lot), but you act like since he never broke some of the most stacked records of all time that he's trash. A guy with those PRs and like 11 world titles is a maniac.
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he only did it to get publicity. he's done in the 5k and 10k and that undisputed. his full marathon isn't notable and hes quite old so he has no shot at that either. i 100% doubt he could compete with bekele or kipchoge, but they also don't even really run the half so thats not a problem for him. as far as the half itself is concerned, he might be able to be a top finisher in a few races, but i don't see him winning anything with real competition or setting any records. the one hour run record was a joke and was never seriously contended (haile did it in 2007 and it was his in between phase between his half and marathon records.). i doubt anyone will break mo's record because no one cares enough to do it. case closed, he just wanted to make a buzz while he still can and say he has 2 "wrs" (both in seldomly ran events)
I will say he's clearly got 58:40 ability. Maybe better, but he'd have to have the balls to hop in a real half that he may not win.
If I were in his position, I'd run world half this year. Very unlikely. 10k at olympics, as kipchoge has gold in the bag, if Bekele is fit he'll be silver, then he would be fighting for bronze with 2:03-4 guys.
World champs Marathon might be a good plan. Rarely deep talent and very tactical.
Farah's not the best ever, but top 10 is very fair. He's great, and he's still in awesome form at 37. Definitely has a sub 59 half in him. that's no joke.
He may not have the strength of bekele, kipchoge, etc. but he is a 3:28 1500 guy. his range is just incredible. nobody else with that kind of speed has gone up and run a 2:05 marathon with a world major win.
he's just a winner. it's all he does (though probably not anymore). And anybody with any knowledge of the sport knows damn well he could have run low 12:40s and around 26:30. but he wouldn't have broken the record, so he didn't chase those numbers. Probably a pride thing. maybe he regrets it now. but it doesn't take away all the gold.
[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:
I am so sick of this "Mo is weak" BS. He was undefeated in championships for like 7 or 8 years. He's a top 3 racer all-time and he's run 26:4x twice. He's legit
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016.
5.
Kibiwott Kandie just ran 58:37 on a pretty warm day, slightly undulating course, solo from 10k.. He is running profesionally since 2016 only. This guy could have gone 21,6-21,7 in Brussels.
Let alone Cheptegei who in the future could be the first man to surpass 22,000m in the hour record.
Mo is very good, but not in the class of the world beaters in the half.
[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:
I am so sick of this "Mo is weak" BS. He was undefeated in championships for like 7 or 8 years. He's a top 3 racer all-time and he's run 26:4x twice. He's legit
It's possible that he's a little bit past his best now, but he's been the king of championship racing for a long time; and still we get negativity from people who would give their left testicle to win a single Olympic or WC gold medal...
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Farah's not the best ever, but top 10 is very fair. He's great, and he's still in awesome form at 37. Definitely has a sub 59 half in him. that's no joke.
He may not have the strength of bekele, kipchoge, etc. but he is a 3:28 1500 guy. his range is just incredible. nobody else with that kind of speed has gone up and run a 2:05 marathon with a world major win.
he's just a winner. it's all he does (though probably not anymore). And anybody with any knowledge of the sport knows damn well he could have run low 12:40s and around 26:30. but he wouldn't have broken the record, so he didn't chase those numbers. Probably a pride thing. maybe he regrets it now. but it doesn't take away all the gold.
^This.
As for the injections: a) they are documented; b) he lied to USADA about them; c) he could have been banned for that lie (and for him not opening the door to the tester back then).
Mo is not weak by any means, but some act like he should be considered in the GOAT conversation. Yes, his range is amazing. His kick in a 5000 or 10000 track meet is one of the best ever.
However, he seems to purposely pick events outside of championships where he is a lock to win. This soft WR is a good example. Impressive performance at his age, but I’m betting any of the top 10 half or marathon guys could have broken it also. When he moved up to the half and marathon he got beat and he didn’t like it.
I think he’s in the top 10 conversation for sure, maybe even top 5, but the top 3 is locked and he’s not in it.