What is going on with the Oklahoma men’s XC team?

That person has less of a resume then a local club coach who volunteers...WOW OU

Martin Smith recruited two of my kids to Oregon, dude was a a total nut. I knew some serious alums who were beyond pissed when he was hired and were glad when he was gone. Vin was a much better fit.

OU are they still in the Big 12 for cross, maybe they should drop a level in this sport cause they do not belong.

douglas burke wrote:

This would be a good year to use your Redshirt, Every competition scheduled could easily be cancelled, If I were still in College now, I would use my Redshirt this year and hope things are back to normal next year.

Not sure if anyone said this yet but this season doesn’t count for eligibility purposes so no need to redshirt

Billy Butcher wrote:

TimetoWakeUp wrote:

Anyone on the inside know what's going on? What happened over the past few days years? What ridiculous training at they doing under this new coach?

When you don’t hire a distance coach until half way through the year last year (because everyone else turned it down), what are they supposed to do? Doesn’t matter if it’s Wetmore, they’re still only going to get dudes who run girls times the first year after everyone else has already transferred out and no one’s training is going to change the fact that they have zero talent.

Man you’re out your mind boy. There’s a ton of coaches who would of came in and hit the ground running hard. Say a guy like joe Lynn at UNCC, he’s one example of many that could have had that team somewhat rolling right now. Maybe no on the same level as smith had them but in 2-3 years yes. I know that recruiting isn’t happening so the other event groups are using the money due to lack of effort from distance coach.

The OU distance job is open, they will move Darden over to Triple Jump or she will be asked to leave. Katherine Hoskins will coach the cross country team next year.

Sounds like you don't know what's going g on. Martin has built one of the top distance programs in the country. He earns $250k per year which is one of the top salaries of distance coaches.

Oh how far they’ve fallen... This was only 4 years ago too

Connor Holt is the only guy that can save OU distance. I’m not why they didn’t hire him after his third NAIA title at OCU.

You’re crazy dude. Most Div 1 soccer guys can break 30 in an 8k; 26:40 would be a stretch for sure but OU needs Conor Holt to save the day. He’s an Alum that has coach OCU to national championships.

Conor is the way!!! Go Holt

manville wrote:

You’re crazy dude. Most Div 1 soccer guys can break 30 in an 8k; 26:40 would be a stretch for sure but OU needs Conor Holt to save the day. He’s an Alum that has coach OCU to national championships.

Conor is the way!!! Go Holt

There is no way more than 20% of D1 soccer players can break 30 in an 8k without at least a month of training. If you think that's possible then stop training for 4 years and join a soccer team. Let us know how you do im your 8k time trial.

Black female hire? Why isn’t anyone saying it?

Is it racist to want change.....to see this program be successful again?

manville wrote:

You’re crazy dude. Most Div 1 soccer guys can break 30 in an 8k; 26:40 would be a stretch for sure but OU needs Conor Holt to save the day. He’s an Alum that has coach OCU to national championships.

Conor is the way!!! Go Holt

Soccer players don’t train to run an 8k they train to play soccer. You don’t run for 30 straight minutes at 6 minute mile pace in soccer. You run very fast for 10 seconds then trot at 12:00 min mile pace for 30 seconds then repeat.

Most soccer players (without training for a reasonable amount of time) lack aerobic efficiency required to run a good 8k time. A few studs would get away with that because they are just talented, but most guys would blow up after running the first 800 in 2:30-2:40 and end up running 32 minutes

What does her poor coaching have to do with her race or sex? Are you saying that she was hired over more qualified candidates?

It's well known they only interviewed female candidates. Whether this was a requirement from admin or head coach preference who knows...but all the women they wanted said "no way." By the time they found someone who would take it, the year was half way over and all the actual athletes had already transferred. Even if they could have hired a proven coach, all the 2020 athletes would have already been committed elsewhere...and no one can make chicken stew from chicken sh!t in less than a year. And obviously no proven coach was willing to take this anyway because they could tell the program was a sh!t show situated in a sh!t hole.

Good call. Is your fake school in D3 or what? Or NAIA? Or?

the430miler wrote:

This is exactly why I took the head coaching job at the university in San Antonio instead of ou or osu.

Billy Butcher wrote:

It's well known they only interviewed female candidates. Whether this was a requirement from admin or head coach preference who knows...but all the women they wanted said "no way." By the time they found someone who would take it, the year was half way over and all the actual athletes had already transferred. Even if they could have hired a proven coach, all the 2020 athletes would have already been committed elsewhere...and no one can make chicken stew from chicken sh!t in less than a year. And obviously no proven coach was willing to take this anyway because they could tell the program was a sh!t show situated in a sh!t hole.

I didn't know the part about only interviewing female candidates. I know that xc is pretty far down on the totem pole for most ADs, but that shows that it is nothing more than a glorified club at OU.

I used to coach cross country at a div 3 school. I also taught a class called “adventure running” most of the soccer players and some of the baseball players that took my class could hang at 6-6:30 min a mile for 3-5 miles. My guess is most of the kids on div 1 soccer teams would have no problem doing 6 min miles. Remember, even though in the game they run short sprints they probably do a ton of running in practice