If wearing your mask for those additional 10 seconds reduces your chance of spreading covid by... say 10%... I think it’s logical. Further, I know many people who won’t enter a restaurant where people are not wearing masks while waiting/walking around. Businesses would be smart to cater to those individuals during this rough time.
The other option is completely shutting down restaurants. Seems like an easy decision.
There is no way on Earth this creates a 10% reduction in transmission.
dunes runner wrote:
Requiring a mask - no health exemptions accepted! - and temperature check (even though I told them what it was) - before being allowed to enter the building to renew my driving license in California.
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Senior shopping before 8 am at Costco and perhaps other places too.
I've heard the lines are long for that, and I rarely go anywhere before 2pm anyway.
Costco pointing the laser at your hand when the zap your card, which they've always done.
They freak out about touching anyone's card, then hand the receipt to you with the hands.
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Stores that spray all the carts with toxic sanitizers, soaking the handles.
I always get a cart from the parking lot and tell them I don't want that spray on me.
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Trader Joe's having people stand 6 feet back from the counter while they ring up the sale.
Then, even more dumb, they stand back 6 feet from the register while you're paying for it.
Then they grab the receipt in their hands and toss it in the cart.
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People who have their little children wearing masks <--- which is child abuse.
I was literally laughing hysterically while reading this. Toxic sanitizers?! You really go and get a cart from the parking lot?!
You know stores wipe those down too, right? It’s just one person using it before you do ? They also wipe down the atm pin pads, the doors for the milk, the check out lines, etc...
I would love to follow you around for a day. I’m now imagining you asking to see the manager to look at the specific chemicals in each spray ??? Thank you for making my afternoon.
Closing parks here was not wise in retrospect. You'd rather have people outside.
Dumb rules wrote:
If wearing your mask for those additional 10 seconds reduces your chance of spreading covid by... say 10%... I think it’s logical.
There is no way on Earth this creates a 10% reduction in transmission.
That's fine. I can't prove it. However, which situation is more likely to result in a reduction of covid cases?
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with no mask on.
Option B) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with a mask on.
There's no logical answer other than Option B - especially when this situation is bound to happen hundreds of times a day at each restaurant. Logic isn't silly to me.
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with no mask on.
Option B) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with a mask on..
What's safer:
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables wearing a full-body Hazmat suit.
Option B) Customer wheels past 10 tables in a hermetically sealed motorized lead box while wearing a full-body Hazmat suit slathered in hand sanitizer and a gas mask with supplemental oxygen.
Logic dictates the obvious answer is B, so let's make everybody do that forever.
Dumb rules wrote:
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with no mask on.
Option B) Customer walks past 10 tables (40 people) and the kitchen on his way to the bathroom with a mask on..
What's safer:
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables wearing a full-body Hazmat suit.
Option B) Customer wheels past 10 tables in a hermetically sealed motorized lead box while wearing a full-body Hazmat suit slathered in hand sanitizer and a gas mask with supplemental oxygen.
Logic dictates the obvious answer is B, so let's make everybody do that forever.
Let's compare the amount of effort it takes to pull your mask up vs.... put on a full hazmat suit.
Please try to argue in good faith. Otherwise you risk being diagnosed with Room-Temp IQ
Please try to argue in good faith. Otherwise you risk being diagnosed with Room-Temp IQ
My point was that using "better safe than sorry!" as a guiding principal is fundamentally illogical. You can always get safer, and nearly all restrictions on freedom stem from the pursuit of ever-increasing safety.
Two:
1. At my office building the stupid circles with the foot prints on the floor in the elevator lobby 6 feet apart. Then the sign saying Not more then 4 people in an elevator at one time. In the elevator only 2 people can’t be 6 feet apart.
2. Temperature checks at restaurants. Girl took my temperature. It was 83.6. I told her “I must be dead.” She replied “No sir, you’re allowed in. Anything lower than 105 and you can enter.”
My kid's daycare makes us drop off one family at a time. If someone else is dropping their kid, you have to wait outside until they leave. DO NOT attempt to enter the lobby or people will freak.
Then the kids literally slobber all over each other for 8 hours, and we go through the same safety theater routine at the end of the day. Then we all hug and kiss our kids and wipe their boogers and take them home.
It's ludicrous.
macdaddy 1 wrote:
which situation is more likely to result in a reduction of covid cases?
None of them, because cases are determined by positive tests for human genetics, not for a virus.
There is no reason to worry. It is safe, it will go away, like a miracle, we have 1 cases, maybe 5, but we deal with it in a very good way, very soon it will be zero. I love how we deal with it.
Donal Trump
*Donald
These aren't necessarily rules, more like procedures and stuff that people practice:
Wiping down the railings of our neighborhood swimming pool every 2 hours
People wearing masks while driving their car...... alone!
People wearing masks when sitting outside on their front lawn...alone
Anything involving masks and outdoors
Anything involving latex gloves and Figure safety
"latex gloves and Covid safety"....I don't get how wearing latex gloves are any safer than regular hands with skin.
Harambe wrote:
Dumb rules wrote:
What's safer:
Option A) Customer walks past 10 tables wearing a full-body Hazmat suit.
Option B) Customer wheels past 10 tables in a hermetically sealed motorized lead box while wearing a full-body Hazmat suit slathered in hand sanitizer and a gas mask with supplemental oxygen.
Logic dictates the obvious answer is B, so let's make everybody do that forever.
Let's compare the amount of effort it takes to pull your mask up vs.... put on a full hazmat suit.
Please try to argue in good faith. Otherwise you risk being diagnosed with Room-Temp IQ
Let's compare Fauci's "lie to save medical supplies" to what he would have said if he thought non-medical substitutes would work.
Logically, they don't; it would have been pretty irresponsible not to be recommending them during and before the peak.
Your "effort" is nothing more than an expression of gullibility. Expecting it of others is actually fascist.
SummerSlogger wrote:
go to eat, wear a mask while Im walking to my seat, but once I sit down I can take it off. Im so glad the virus is gentleman enough to allow me to eat my meal, and enjoy conversations with my friends and will only attack me on neutral ground.
Seems like at least in Colorado few outbreaks are traced to restaurants. Every one I have been in has space between the tables. Plus hard to eat through a mask.
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
Dumb rules wrote:
My silliest list:
1. One way running/walking around outdoor parks (e.g., must go clockwise around this pond).
2. One way aisles in grocery stores.
3. Wearing a mask outdoors, especially if you're doing the "pulling your mask up for 2 seconds to go by somebody then pulling it down again" thing.
The no reusable grocery store bags one in California was pretty stupid. Glad that one has been lifted.
We can use them, but the bagger will not bag them. But that might be even sillier.
covid hysteria wrote:
Two:
1. At my office building the stupid circles with the foot prints on the floor in the elevator lobby 6 feet apart. Then the sign saying Not more then 4 people in an elevator at one time. In the elevator only 2 people can’t be 6 feet apart.
2. Temperature checks at restaurants. Girl took my temperature. It was 83.6. I told her “I must be dead.” She replied “No sir, you’re allowed in. Anything lower than 105 and you can enter.”
105!!!!! crap at 104 you could barely be walking!!!! 105 you might well be dead!
(The following uses core temp but skin is less than core so...
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heat-exhaustion/symptoms-causes/syc-20373250Note: 104 you should seek immediate medical attention.
The silliest part is 180,000 deaths - 2000 a day - and over 300.000 by December. Silly pandemic.
Luv2Run wrote:
covid hysteria wrote:
Two:
1. At my office building the stupid circles with the foot prints on the floor in the elevator lobby 6 feet apart. Then the sign saying Not more then 4 people in an elevator at one time. In the elevator only 2 people can’t be 6 feet apart.
2. Temperature checks at restaurants. Girl took my temperature. It was 83.6. I told her “I must be dead.” She replied “No sir, you’re allowed in. Anything lower than 105 and you can enter.”
105!!!!! crap at 104 you could barely be walking!!!! 105 you might well be dead!
(The following uses core temp but skin is less than core so...
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heat-exhaustion/symptoms-causes/syc-20373250Note: 104 you should seek immediate medical attention.
Pretty sure it should be 100.5