Aussiestatman wrote:
The old WR must go, surely?
Hassan looks to be out of shape.
Aussiestatman wrote:
The old WR must go, surely?
Hassan looks to be out of shape.
agc5k wrote:
Hassan doesn't look to be in form right now based off her only race this season. She probably will get beat and finish well below our expectations. She needs more time to train to regain fitness. I remember reading that her training hasn't gone well in Ethiopia due to the political stuff going on there.
Had been interesting to see Hassan coached by the magic wizard JS.
Bad Wigins wrote:
If it's only 7 days and 2 runners then this could be your first ever 1 page thread. Where's the profiles?
Second page without 17 posts by me.
What is the shoe rule fora 1 hour TT? 25mm so Dragonflys or go for it so Alphaflys?
NT is great wrote:
What is the shoe rule fora 1 hour TT? 25mm so Dragonflys or go for it so Alphaflys?
25mm. Moen's 1 hour record was not approved due to illegal shoes.
Only Kosgei can dance? wrote:
Had been interesting to see Hassan coached by the magic wizard JS.
Hold on, now, can't a JS reference create enough excitement to get 6 more pages? The great one himself is usually good for 30-40 posts.
Another giver of +1 wrote:
NT is great wrote:
What is the shoe rule fora 1 hour TT? 25mm so Dragonflys or go for it so Alphaflys?
25mm. Moen's 1 hour record was not approved due to illegal shoes.
You’re going to give poor Coach Canova a stroke. We’ve only recently got him relaxed again.
Moen just withdrawed from the one hour race at Brussels. He's blaming the ridicolous shoe rule. He just can't risk an injury running 53 laps in spikes four weeks before London Marathon.
https://www.nrk.no/sport/skoreglene-stopper-oppgitt-sondre-nordstad-moen-1.15138882
OneMoenMile wrote:
Moen just withdrawed from the one hour race at Brussels. He's blaming the ridicolous shoe rule. He just can't risk an injury running 53 laps in spikes four weeks before London Marathon.
https://www.nrk.no/sport/skoreglene-stopper-oppgitt-sondre-nordstad-moen-1.15138882
Seriously? He can’t just wear some normal flats? That’s lame.
yeah the wr will surely go since hassan will "forget" which line to start on
Lonah Salpeter is another entrant who should be capable of smashing the existing WR. She ran 2:17:45 FTW in Tokyo this year, and 30:05 for a road 10k last September.
On the men’s side, unsurprisingly it looks set up for the Mo Farah show, with Bashir Abdi his only possible competition. ?Can I blame Mo? I want to blame Mo.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
https://brussels.diamondleague.com/en/programme-results-brussels/?eventId=1d595327-6612-4462-9ef2-3d685e5b8588&eventStart=2020-09-04T19%3A11%3A00%2B02%3A00&tx_diamondrace_diamondleaguestatistics%5Baction%5D=showEntries&tx_diamondrace_diamondleaguestatistics%5Bcontroller%5D=DiamondLeagueStatistics&cHash=343ffa65e861aac8abdaa732c2e76409Lonah Salpeter is another entrant who should be capable of smashing the existing WR. She ran 2:17:45 FTW in Tokyo this year, and 30:05 for a road 10k last September.
On the men’s side, unsurprisingly it looks set up for the Mo Farah show, with Bashir Abdi his only possible competition. ?Can I blame Mo? I want to blame Mo.
helen bekele could go with them for 58 min and kelvin kiptum wont be too far behind the big two men
Sondre had a surgery in the plantar fascia in the month of April 2012, and didn't train for more than one year, going back to the competition at the beginning of 2014 only with little training, and really going in full training in 2015 only.
After that surgery, he always had problems to use spikes. When he started to train with me, I gave him, as first goal, the target to increase his limits on track again, but after few sessions I understood that there was a big risk using spikes. Never we had with spikes sessions on track with more volume than 4 km, and all the test were short (max 600m), very far from my idea of training. Therefore, we started to do long distances (from 1000m to 3000m) on track using racing shoes, changing with spikes for running the last 2-4 tests in short distances (and of course faster) at the end of the sessions.
In 2018, he had problems again, also training with racing shoes (not Vaporfly), affecting his calves and Achille's tendon, and we understood that the problem was the not sufficient posterior support for his heel. From that period (other 3 months without training after dropping out in the marathon of European Champs because of the problems under his foot, involving his adductors, that he had to face during his last 3 months of training) he started to use, in training too, always Vaporfly, more comfortable because the drop between posterior and anterior part of the shoe can reduce the load of the body on tendon and calves, not stretched at every step like happens with shoes with the sole having the same thickness in front and behind.
Anyway, everybody can clearly understand that on track athletes can't run faster using every legal type of racing shoes (also with high thickness and carbon plate or similar), compared with spikes, only using common sense without following emotional propaganda.
Last year, all the shoes were allowed for running on track. During WCh in Doha, with 22 athletes starting, 21 (all specialists of track) used spikes, and only Sondre preferred to use Vaporfly. The winners of medals were very expert about racing shoes, that normally used in training and in their competitions on the road : Cheptegei (Gold) used Vaporfly for bettering the WR of 15 km in Seven Hills, Kejelcha (Silver) used Vaporfly during his 2 half marathon (the first Copenhagen in 2018), Rhonex Kipruto (Bronze) used a special prototype of Adidas more thick than 25 mm during his WR of 10 km ; but, in spite of their experience with racing shoes, they decided to use spikes in the race, KNOWING WITH SPIKES THEY COULD RUN FASTER ON TRACK.
This consideration must be enough for considering the current rule, that doesn't allow to wear racing shoes with thickness higher than 25 mm in any competition on track, A TOTAL BULLSHIT, without any reason, because the benefit of shoes with high thickness and some plate inside is to reduce the effects of the impact on the ground when the athlete starts to be tired, losing the elastic efficiency, and doesn't regard the SPEED, that is SLOWER because the increase of the time of contact on the ground.
Track is not the common denominator for deciding the particulars of a shoe, DISTANCE is.
20-30 km gives the same problems if athletes run on track or on road, and the advantage (that there is at individual level) with top athletes starts when the athlete becomes tired in his legs. This means after 30 km for top athletes, maybe for 5 km with amateurs.
Another point is that ALL the athletes running on track longer than one hour are road runners, so can use the SAME type of shoes and there is nobody takes advantage with other athletes for his shoes (exactly what happens in a HM or Marathon on thr road).
In spite of the rule, in many Countries the Federations don't care about the shoes, and don't do any control : in Japan, 50% of athletes run 5000m and 10000m on track with illegal racing shoes, BECAUSE ARE ROAD RUNNERS, in Ukraine the same, in the Austrian Championships 50% of the runners in 10000m used illegal racing shoes, and in US the last competition won by Maggie Montoya on 29 August with 32'11"48 saw many athletes (including the winner) using Vaporfly or other illegal racing shoes.
Thanks Renato
I literally cannot wait. So excited.
Aussiestatman wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
https://brussels.diamondleague.com/en/programme-results-brussels/?eventId=1d595327-6612-4462-9ef2-3d685e5b8588&eventStart=2020-09-04T19%3A11%3A00%2B02%3A00&tx_diamondrace_diamondleaguestatistics%5Baction%5D=showEntries&tx_diamondrace_diamondleaguestatistics%5Bcontroller%5D=DiamondLeagueStatistics&cHash=343ffa65e861aac8abdaa732c2e76409Lonah Salpeter is another entrant who should be capable of smashing the existing WR. She ran 2:17:45 FTW in Tokyo this year, and 30:05 for a road 10k last September.
On the men’s side, unsurprisingly it looks set up for the Mo Farah show, with Bashir Abdi his only possible competition. ?Can I blame Mo? I want to blame Mo.
helen bekele could go with them for 58 min and kelvin kiptum wont be too far behind the big two men
So kosgei, salpeter, Hassan, Helen Bekele in that order. First three over the old record?
I can't wait.
For one or both of these athletes to be banned.
Going to be great, so exciting I love pro track.
Seven days almost done, more like 7 hrs now
I don't mind Vaporfly's on the track for over distance attempts like this. I get Moen not wanting to get injured leading up to London by wearing a flat that'll beat hi s body up. Everybody has a super shoe now & events like this don't decide who gets a medal.
FWIW the LetsRun preview article was pretty good. I think Hassan will challenge Kosgei but that Kosgei is the favorite. Hassan got through 4k @ sub-14:30 pace. Now she has put in 3 more weeks of training. Either way, these women can break 1:08 half marathon pace. This should be a fun meet.
Just doing some maths for the women's attempt. 74 sec laps get them 3.05 km's and a finish at 19459.5 metres. Will any of them go quicker early and try to break the others?