RE: Garmin - 100% of there software (which is utter trash) is done in Taiwan and all of their hardware manufacturing is in China. They make zero parts, assemble zero anything and do no software in the US... at all.
Made in American. LOL
Only think we can still manufacture here in the US is bed liners for your truck and floor mats for you car.
Ho Hum wrote:
My main concern with Coros is, what happens if they go under? Could you still upload runs if they stop maintaining the app?
How many times have Garmin servers crashed recently? Not to mention the huge hack last year.
I had it for a few days. Tough to make the switch over from Garmin for me and while it’s got some cool features and was generally well thought out, there are some quirks that are too annoying to get by for me. It’s not as customizable as a Garmin…..for example you can’t turn ‘pace smoothing’ off. That bothers me because I like to take pace/distance from Stryd and like as close as possible to instant feedback - the Coros is super laggy with pace. The parameters in ‘design a workout’ are kinda clunky, not nearly as intuitive as Garmin IMO although maybe it’s just that I’m to comfortable with that ecosystem. Track mode sounds cool but I always use the lap button on the track and am looking at time for splits so didn’t find it very useful, particularly with the laggy pace compared to a Garmin taking pace from Stryd.
Sirius Question wrote:
I don't know much about power meters for runners. Can you please explain exactly why this is beneficial?
I like the look of the watch and the size. Much better than the sh*t design that Garmin has in their lowest-end units. Those things are either ugly or way too big for smaller sized wrists (or both).
I love my Pace 2, but the answer to your question is that its reported power doesn’t mean much. The details are proprietary, but it is primarily adjusting a normalized effort score based on pace to changing elevation over the run. It doesn’t appear to have access to wind speed information. It doesn’t have as much kinematic information as a foot pod.
You can use it to just blindly run on any new route at whim and compare your running power and HR and get a more accurate (elevation normalized) measure of your running economy than just pace and HR. My understanding is that Coros doesn’t intend for the power metric to be comparable across different users.
arunaround wrote:
I love my Pace 2, but the answer to your question is that its reported power doesn’t mean much. The details are proprietary, but it is primarily adjusting a normalized effort score based on pace to changing elevation over the run.
There is no standard for measuring power. When comparing the Pace 2 most other power measurements the results (meaning the peaks, valleys, fluctuations) are virtually identical.
As always, DC Rainmaker has an excellent analysis of the watch.
BTTW wrote:
I had it for a few days. Tough to make the switch over from Garmin for me and while it’s got some cool features and was generally well thought out, there are some quirks that are too annoying to get by for me. It’s not as customizable as a Garmin…..for example you can’t turn ‘pace smoothing’ off. That bothers me because I like to take pace/distance from Stryd and like as close as possible to instant feedback - the Coros is super laggy with pace. The parameters in ‘design a workout’ are kinda clunky, not nearly as intuitive as Garmin IMO although maybe it’s just that I’m to comfortable with that ecosystem. Track mode sounds cool but I always use the lap button on the track and am looking at time for splits so didn’t find it very useful, particularly with the laggy pace compared to a Garmin taking pace from Stryd.
I've had my Pace 2 for about a week and a half now. Personally, I prefer the workout creation (and all the other UI) in the Coros app. Track mode is excellent -- not sure what you mean you can't use it for manual laps and seeing splits?? You definitely can.
The pace lag I'm less sure about. I never noticed it but I tend to only use 'lap pace' as opposed to 'current pace.'