What happened? Did she have an off day or did she just give up?
What happened? Did she have an off day or did she just give up?
She admitted her 14:22 was a surprise and she ran out of her head and above her fitness. She just wasn't to recover in order to race a world class 1500m. That takes a lot of power and a hard 5000m early in the season first race just depleted her. I love natural clean athletes like Obiri. She's not superwoman like everyone wants or expects her to be.
It’s interesting seeing how everyone has bounced back from Monaco. If anyone, I would have expected that Laura Weightman would have been fried seeing how she collapsed on the track and ripped her spikes off immediately after crossing the line.
Weightman is one of the chosen ones for World Athletics and Team GBR.
Corin wrote:
She admitted her 14:22 was a surprise and she ran out of her head and above her fitness. She just wasn't to recover in order to race a world class 1500m. That takes a lot of power and a hard 5000m early in the season first race just depleted her. I love natural clean athletes like Obiri. She's not superwoman like everyone wants or expects her to be.
Fair enough but I’m thinking 1422 and then moving down to 1500 in 4: 10 does not make a lot of sense unless she really took it easy and gave up. 1422 would normally suggest a time of around 354-3:56 If not faster. 4:10 just us not correlate with 1422. Well at least she finished but I’m guessing she had a pretty decent appearance fee.
Ghost1 wrote:
Corin wrote:
She admitted her 14:22 was a surprise and she ran out of her head and above her fitness. She just wasn't to recover in order to race a world class 1500m. That takes a lot of power and a hard 5000m early in the season first race just depleted her. I love natural clean athletes like Obiri. She's not superwoman like everyone wants or expects her to be.
Fair enough but I’m thinking 1422 and then moving down to 1500 in 4: 10 does not make a lot of sense unless she really took it easy and gave up. 1422 would normally suggest a time of around 354-3:56 If not faster. 4:10 just us not correlate with 1422. Well at least she finished but I’m guessing she had a pretty decent appearance fee.
Obiri is better in the longer distances. Her PRs are 14:18 and 3:57, and the 3:57 was 6 years ago. I think she is probably more like a 4:00 runner at her best right now, focusing on the longer stuff.
Corin wrote:
She admitted her 14:22 was a surprise and she ran out of her head and above her fitness. She just wasn't to recover in order to race a world class 1500m. That takes a lot of power and a hard 5000m early in the season first race just depleted her. I love natural clean athletes like Obiri. She's not superwoman like everyone wants or expects her to be.
She also said before the race she'd done no speedwork. I think the 5,000 was a big surprise to her, but the 64-second laps were a shock to her system that she couldn't quite manage at this stage. She is more of a 5K/10K athlete at this point, and even got that World Cross title.
While I would have expected Obiri to run better, she clearly focussed on the longer distances in the last 2-3 years and has run very few 1500/mile races in that time. And she has been inconsistent before. Faded last year in the DL final and in the Doha 10k, but came back very strong in the Doha 5k.
These "equivalent times" are nonsense, if a runner is not equally well prepared for both distances. There are only two women who have run 14:22 or faster and 3:55 or faster, Genzebe Dibaba and Hassan. Other low/sub 14:20s Ayana, Tirunesh, Defar, Gidey etc. have either no official 1500m times at all or far weaker ones. (Nevertheless 4:10 is weak, Obiri ran the last two laps in the Monaco 5k faster than the last two laps in Stockholm.)
Only Obiri and Mageean disappointed compared to Monaco. Almost veryone else who did well in Monaco also ran pretty good races in Stockholm: Muir, Reekie, Hull, Weightman, Rowbury.
I think under distance times are related especially on the track. For example an elite male athlete who is faster than 13 minutes for 5000 would have to be at least 338 or faster 1500. If a male athlete who is elite hoping for sub 13 minutes in the 5000 cannot run faster than 340 unlikely to happen. Everything is related on the track with few exceptions. This is why you have equivalencies which globally hold true to form. Obiri might be an exception that proves the rule. Dathan Ritz. and his 12:56 were anomalous.
I agree with Corin that a bad race here or there is a (weak) signal that an athlete isn't doping.
It's also much harder to time your peak and your training right this year because there's no championship, so for all we know, her peak was a week before her 5K and her 14:22 was the tail end of her peak fitness.
I'd be stoked to run a 4:10 1500 FWIW
Actually watching it I was a bit worried she got close to the other girls because I think she might have got infected by C19.
The equivalences hold to some extent but one has to consider the type of athlete and especially that s/he is comparably well prepared and runs both events regularly. (Cheptegei has not run (sub) 3:30 1500 either and very probably never will.) Obiri ran some very good 1500/mile races in the past but she has been focussing on 5/10k for several years now and she is also 30 which might mean losing a bit if one is not well prepared. It could also be that she basically gave up when she realized she could not keep up with the field and could have run a 4:05. And there are also simply off days. Mageean was expected to run sub 4 after her 2:31 1k and these distances are much closer than Obiri's.
SprintTriathlon wrote:
Actually watching it I was a bit worried she got close to the other girls because I think she might have got infected by C19.
*sigh*
Norwegian humor...
Corin wrote:
She admitted her 14:22 was a surprise and she ran out of her head and above her fitness. She just wasn't to recover in order to race a world class 1500m. That takes a lot of power and a hard 5000m early in the season first race just depleted her. I love natural clean athletes like Obiri. She's not superwoman like everyone wants or expects her to be.
I don't buy this explanation. She nearly ran this pace in her 5k. Sure if she ran 4:0X high, yeah, I'd get it, but I think she might be injured or something, or this wasn't a 100% effort. Its really hard to believe that a 14:22 person could only manage 4:10 in an all out effort, even if it was only a week after the tough 5k race.
Jo72 wrote:
While I would have expected Obiri to run better, she clearly focussed on the longer distances in the last 2-3 years and has run very few 1500/mile races in that time. And she has been inconsistent before. Faded last year in the DL final and in the Doha 10k, but came back very strong in the Doha 5k.
She faded in the Doha 10k? 30:35 in her debut, after she tried to go with the leaders?
It was not her debut, it was her 3rd track 10k (same as Gidey, one more than Hassan).
Ghost1 wrote:
Dathan Ritz. and his 12:56 were anomalous.
Which came shortly after joining NOP. Can you connect the dots?