BREAKING: Yale university discriminated against Asian and White applicants

Breaking news................ every historically white institution has discriminated against blacks, native Americans and Hispanics forever.

So that makes it okay? Shouldn't there be no discrimination at all? Smith going out

No they did not. They used to pick the best and brightest. They now pick the best monorities over equally qualified Asians and Whites.

Funny that truth is coming out.

new york times loves kamala wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/us/yale-discrimination.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

New York Times vigorously disagrees, of course, and wants more discrimination against Whites and Asians.

Literally everyone that works at a college knows that there is massive discrimination against Asians and whites. It's about time affirmative actions goes away for good and is replaced with a system based purely on MERIT.

Affirmative action for white males at Yale:

https://www.biography.com/news/dick-cheney-political-rise-vice-president

"Nor can it be said that taking account of legacy status gives merely an “ever so slight tip”, as claimed by William Fitzsimmons, dean of admissions at Harvard College. The acceptance rate for legacy applicants at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Georgetown and Stanford is between two and three times higher than the general admission rate. "

skullandbones wrote:

Affirmative action for white males at Yale:

https://www.biography.com/news/dick-cheney-political-rise-vice-president

"Nor can it be said that taking account of legacy status gives merely an “ever so slight tip”, as claimed by William Fitzsimmons, dean of admissions at Harvard College. The acceptance rate for legacy applicants at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Georgetown and Stanford is between two and three times higher than the general admission rate. "

Great find, skullbone. So now we have TWO absurd programs for entry of less qualified students at Yale. And one even seems to be illegal.

Asians are white, for the most part. American concepts of "race" are comically simplistic, but then the concept of race itself is simplistic.

Preference for legacy is not good either, but it's clearly NOT illegal. It applies legacy of all races and genders and is not discrimination.

What is currently happening is white and asian students with objectively better grades/scores/extracurriculars are being turned down SOLELY DUE TO THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

Ohhhh so the white and Asian students will have to settle for Princeton or Dartmouth. The struggle is real for them. Talk about first world problems.

Fortune 500 companies are prioritizing diversity and inclusion, Yale and other prestigious colleges are following suit. This is 2020 ya’ll, not 1990. Get with the times or get left behind.

Why was Yale singled out?

ithinkiamright wrote:

Ohhhh so the white and Asian students will have to settle for Princeton or Dartmouth. The struggle is real for them. Talk about first world problems.

Fortune 500 companies are prioritizing diversity and inclusion, Yale and other prestigious colleges are following suit. This is 2020 ya’ll, not 1990. Get with the times or get left behind.

Princeton and Dartmouth do the same thing.

Everyone knows companies are preaching the same (it's the other way around, though - business is following universities). The issues are still real and current - whether such discrimination is beneficial, effective, competitive, principled, moral and/or legal. You can probably understand why many people would think such practices are none of those things , and that merely saying "everyone else is doing it in 2020" is a weak justification.

i cant believe anyone supports discrimination based on the colour of someone's skin.

if the top two universities in the US are racist, what does that say about the rest?

if i were a white or asian kid with good credentials, and was denied, id be annoyed. but we are talking 10% black students at Yale. College is not the real world where we are talking about worse candidates being selected for an actual job.

colleges pick lower students based on sports. Everybody is okay with this. They choose people with better extra curriculars over people with better scores. And then there is the legacy thing, where colleges choose students who have alumni that have donated a lot of money. It is not a STRAIGHT UP meritocracy, and never has been. But overall, they are admitting mostly best and brightest.

if they admit so many lesser students that their product becomes water downed and less valuable, they will have a problem, and people will look elsewhere. so far that is not happening.

They should discriminate by socioeconomic class. That's the real separator of opportunity at birth.

Find gifted people who aren't well off and give them a shot to rise up.

America should be a place where we groom our driven and gifted.

I guess liberals are right, this article does demonstrate systemic racism in America.

They do. Poor kids pay nothing while rich kids pay $75k. But all should be judged on merit, not skin color. It is amazing that highly educated people could think it is okay to discriminate based on race. A 36 ACT gets denied because he is white while a 31 ACT gets in because he is black. They are bypassing thousands of more qualified kids. And the white kid could be from rural Mississippi raised by a single mother earning $25k while the black kid could be from Manhattan raised by parents earning $1M. Income is not considered in admissions but race is. The black kid could have gone to a primarily white school with rich kids at the same time that the white kid attended a school with almost all poor black kids.

+1 Of all the real problems in our country right now, this is one of the least interesting. This university is little more than a pipeline into the networks of elites that have ruled this country since its founding. If anything, the best thing that could happen would be for all of the Ivies to burn to the fvcking ground. Fvck the elites, no matter the color of their skin.

ithinkiamright wrote:

Ohhhh so the white and Asian students will have to settle for Princeton or Dartmouth. The struggle is real for them. Talk about first world problems.

Fortune 500 companies are prioritizing diversity and inclusion, Yale and other prestigious colleges are following suit. This is 2020 ya’ll, not 1990. Get with the times or get left behind.

More on affirmative action for rich white and Asian people at Yale:

Following news reports of the “Varsity Blues” scandal, many students questioned whether there is an ethical distinction between bribing one’s way into college and receiving an added advantage in the admissions process because one’s parent is a significant donor.

“Technically, the donors aren’t bribing Yale’s Office of Undergraduate Admissions, and Yale isn’t breaking any law. But Yale is still sanctioning the unethical. Giving an advantage to children of donors erodes the admissions meritocracy on which our University depends. When social structures that we believe in, like admissions, perform unethical deeds, it undermines those systems’ principles, breaking a kind of social law,” wrote Sammy Landino ’21 in a News opinion piece on March 28.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkz0Fyhzptsate

last year, the News reported that some prospective applicants who are children of major donors — which Yale labels “VIP” candidates — receive special treatment and are allowed to visit campus and organize meals with first-year counselors before they even submit an application. No such formalized program exists for non-”VIP” candidates until after they are admitted to the University."

http://features.yaledailynews.com/blog/2019/04/25/up-close-before-and-after-varsity-blues/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmadg5/yale-just-booted-a-kid-who-got-in-because-her-parents-allegedly-bribed-the-soccer-coach

https://abcnews.go.com/US/lucrative-clients-operation-varsity-blues-college-admissions-scandal/story?id=62661180