Strava is officially dead.

Just use a lined notebook

maybe a glitch? im a premium subscriber and it disappeared for me as well.

I wondered why I couldn't see my gf's weekly mileage when I looked earlier today. I had assumed it was a privacy thing. But I guess not... that's pretty shitty. Tbh I doubt it'll really change anything for many users as there aren't really many well known alternatives. And anyone with a GPS watch should have mileage tracking via that anyway. Its pretty shitty though as its a loss to paying users as well. I pay, but now I can't see other people's mileage :\

...^ just realised I also can't see my mileage either (despite being a paying user). Must be a temporary bug related to the relative effort graph they've now put as the major graph on the profile page.

The training log went away. You can still see your weekly mileage.

> On strava (web), hover over your picture in the top right corner, then click on "Profile"

> Scroll down and you can see a bar graph arranged by week. You can see distance, time, or elevation gain, by the week or by the month.

> Clicking on each bar will bring you to a more detailed summary of that week including each workout you did.

The training log was pretty, but you can still see this info.

Before making the definitive pronouncement that a service is dead, you might wanna have a good look around ;)

Mileage still showing up for me. Not a premium member.

Same it’s there for me. I doubt they would remove the feature for free users

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Its pretty shitty though as its a loss to paying users as well. I pay, but now I can't see other people's mileage :\

Being able to hyper-analyze other peoples' training is not a feature, but a bug. Drives up engagement with strava, and inhibits you just doing your own thing that you would enjoy. Takes you outside of yourself. Encourages you to look at things that don't matter. My take.

TheseKidsUnderstand25 wrote:

Being able to hyper-analyze other peoples' training is not a feature, but a bug. Drives up engagement with strava, and inhibits you just doing your own thing that you would enjoy. Takes you outside of yourself. Encourages you to look at things that don't matter. My take.

I guess that's one way to look at it. I just like to congratulate my girlfriend when she does a lot of running in a week because she's not geeky enough to notice those kinds of things herself.

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I just like to congratulate my girlfriend when she does a lot of running in a week because she's not geeky enough to notice those kinds of things herself.

Just to challenge that line of thought (playfully) - what is wrong with your girlfriend not paying attention to her numbers?

In my opinion, this is another example of Strava taking a user outside of herself, forcing her to look at the cold hard numbers that she apparently has little interest in. She might appreciate the recognition from you, but she no longer has the freedom to run without the feedback (if she desires). Strava is indirectly imposing its tracking obsession on someone who doesn't seem to want it. It's insidious. It encourages a certain POV about working out - if it isn't tracked, does it matter?

It's still there, but clearly you would miss it as you had to create a thread shouting like a little kid.

If I were going to leave something I certainly wouldn't create a thread telling everyone how much of an outraged Karen I was.

What are you going on about? It’s the number of miles you ran this week. Just about the most basic metric there is. God forbid they add 7 numbers together and force that sort of obsessive over analysis upon you!

Walmslord wrote:

What are you going on about? It’s the number of miles you ran this week. Just about the most basic metric there is. God forbid they add 7 numbers together and force that sort of obsessive over analysis upon you!

You don't seem to be interested in understanding what I'm saying so much as cramming your opinion down my throat, but I'll bite.

I'm not just talking about the mileage totals. I'm talking about the pervasive way strava encourages you to obsess over details of your workouts, or the mileage you ran, or your segment PR, or how fast others run that segment, or how much your really fit friend is doing, or whether you are a "local legend" on your segment, or ...

I was just getting into the weeds on the specific way strava was polluting his partner's experience with data shoved in her face - in this case, she will sometimes run a lot in a week because she feels like it. She doesn't notice on Strava, but her Strava-connected boyfriend app will notify her when she has a big week. I'm just pointing out the ways strava seems to encourage you to compare/track, rather than simply enjoy your workouts. Strava isn't wrong for encouraging people to look outside themselves for enjoyment in running, but I firmly believe the deepest and most meaningful joy of running is from connecting with yourself, not racking up numbers or beating your friends. And it sounds like for the GF, she is doing fine without looking at the numbers. Strava pierced that delicate bubble. I doubt the GF signed up on her own, if she needs to be reminded of her weekly mileage.

map my run did this recently as well. though now they have several other available stats that they didn't in the past. it is just nice to look at your run log and immediately see the weekly mileage.

Walmslord wrote:

What are you going on about? It’s the number of miles you ran this week. Just about the most basic metric there is. God forbid they add 7 numbers together and force that sort of obsessive over analysis upon you!

It's still there bro.

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It's still there, but clearly you would miss it as you had to create a thread shouting like a little kid.

If I were going to leave something I certainly wouldn't create a thread telling everyone how much of an outraged Karen I was.

That's the old folks' way. Imagine it in a retail store:

OP: I am now going to STOP SHOPPING at your STUPID STORE. I am upset you no longer carry my favorite product! How could you do this to me?? Explain yourself!

Strava employee: Well sir/ma'am, you can still find that in aisle ...

OP: DO NOT...DO...NOT...TALK OVER ME. I will not hear your excuses. This is unacceptable. People are not going to stand for this. I have many friends and I will take them all with me. BYE BYE, SUCKERS! You won't last long without me! [slams door]

Strava employee: I wonder if she ever knew we still had that item in stock

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Just to challenge that line of thought (playfully) - what is wrong with your girlfriend not paying attention to her numbers?

In my opinion, this is another example of Strava taking a user outside of herself, forcing her to look at the cold hard numbers that she apparently has little interest in. She might appreciate the recognition from you, but she no longer has the freedom to run without the feedback (if she desires). Strava is indirectly imposing its tracking obsession on someone who doesn't seem to want it. It's insidious. It encourages a certain POV about working out - if it isn't tracked, does it matter?

Yeah, it's certainly a valid perspective. I've spent a few days out lately without my phone because it's nice to not be tethered to social media etc.

My gf is the kind of person who says she's hates running but then is so happy and proud of herself after a run. She loves it really but tells herself she hates it. She also really appreciates its effects on her body (calorie burning, toning etc). She uses Strava because all the men in her life use it, and some of her female friends do. She is also competitive (who isn't?) and likes when she is better than those other girls (and some guys). She celebrated when the local HM was cancelled because she hates the pressure. But now I'm putting a little pressure on her to run the (free) virtual equivalent, and to get the sub-2 time that I know she is (comfortably) capable of. She did an 8 miler at 8:45 pace today and was very happy afterwards.

It's a dichotomy. She may have been happier in the moment, before she met me, when she was 30lbs overweight and exercised but with no goals or external pressure. But she was jealous of skinny girls, jealous of sporty girls and not too happy in the long run. She's much happier in the long term now. And getting a sub-2 is something she'll be proud of for the rest of her life. Even if she celebrated initially when she realised she didn't 'have to' do it.

Bit of a digression from the influence of Strava... But it's all kind of the same.

There might be a bug we can solve to get the mileage totals visible for you, but it will require pics of your girlfriend please.

Your gf was running over to my place and she didn’t want you to know.

Don Juan