Purrier 4:00.77, MacLean 2:00.29 in time trials

Well, since women are running the 1k and 5k at Monaco, those times will stand up really well :-).

More relevant question: how will those times stand up against the Music City Distance Festival in Nashville this Saturday evening (8/15)?

Following their sub-4:24s last month at the Team Boss Indiana Mile, Cory mentioned their next race might be MCDF.

If Cory, Emma and Dani are entered and run the 1500, sub-4 would likely be their target.

MCDF entries have yet to be posted but its website mentions multiple Olympians have committed.

Bower Man wrote:

More relevant question: how will those times stand up against the Music City Distance Festival in Nashville this Saturday evening (8/15)?

Following their sub-4:24s last month at the Team Boss Indiana Mile, Cory mentioned their next race might be MCDF. If Cory, Emma and Dani are entered and run the 1500, sub-4 would likely be their target.

Good point. Even without outside competition, the intra-squad meets this summer (NB Boston, Team Boss and Bowerman) have been really impressive. I have always performed better with competition, like most people, but it's interesting to see what people can do with a lot of motivation and perfect conditions.

If McGee, Coburn or Jones runs sub-4:00 at MCDF, maybe Purrier will get back out there!

It would have been nice to see what MacLean could have done in the 1k in Monaco. It was great to see her in the big meets last summer. Maybe another big breakthrough is possible.

Why is Sinclaire Johnson MIA?

Good point about Heather -- easy to overlook her accomplishments with all the attention on Elle.

Don't think their times are official since the track appeared not to have a rail and not sure if a USATF official was there. Nonetheless, those are FAT times they ran and apparently did not use rabbits.

Here's a possibility (and a big ask): Coogan takes his NB Boston team to MCDF.

I was thinking the same thing. These fine marks are not official and cannot be used for anything but the training log. No rail, no official mark.

I would also like to see the video if there is one. Were they paced (by men)?

These women are clearly fit and capable of posting official times. NB just needs to find a track with a rail, get some officials to certify it and don’t forget about the covid testing.

YMMV wrote:

Why is Sinclaire Johnson MIA?

Ask Jerry (she's BTC now, in case you missed it).

Just listened to the Dathan Ritzenhein interview over at Dyestat.

He mentioned a couple times that his new OAC team would be competing a couple times before shutting down for the summer.

That certainly sounds like they will be at the MCDC (Carnival, not Festival, my mistake) this Saturday in Nashville. After that, likely the Blue Oval meet at Drake U.

Ritz stated that Leah/steepler is in really good shape . . . said she recently ran a 4:36 time trial mile in Boulder . . . note that Emma Coburn holds the CO in-state mile record at 4:32 from that Grand Junction intrasquad race Team Boss had a few months back.

If the Team Boss gals and Leah all run the 1500, that's another 4 women who should be sniffing the 4-minute mark. Imagine Karissa is desperately clingling to her 4:00.02 world-leading mark.

Looks like Music City will be the closest we'll get to a Payton Jordan-like distance event this year.

Nothing indicates that McGee, Coburn or Jones could run sub-4 at the moment.

Bower Man wrote:

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Looks like Music City will be the closest we'll get to a Payton Jordan-like distance event this year.

The Sunset Tour is still planned for the 22nd & 29th August. No idea of entries yet but it was pretty good last year.

Apparently men paced Purrier through 1300m. It’s why you don’t see full video. No rail, paced by men, no track certification, no c19 testing. Come on. Get it together NB. The four flat is great, just call it what it is, but don’t come off saying it’s a pb. It’s a male paced time trial without a rail, without athlete safety measures in place. There are reason we have these rules. There are athletes and meet managers out there making large efforts to put certified athletic meetings on around the world. Surely, Purrier can find one of these meets and get a real PB. Until she does that, these marks should be fully ignored, but for an acknowledgment that she is fit and ready to race.

YMMV wrote:

Why is Sinclaire Johnson MIA?

Jerry's athletes usually don't race well their first year or two in his system. It takes time to transition to the system, so he's probably bringing her along slowly to allow her to transition to the system. They do a lot more volume than other groups, and that's tough for people when they're new to it.

Special wrote:

ddnbb wrote:

Good point. Even without outside competition, the intra-squad meets this summer (NB Boston, Team Boss and Bowerman) have been really impressive. I have always performed better with competition, like most people, but it's interesting to see what people can do with a lot of motivation and perfect conditions.

If McGee, Coburn or Jones runs sub-4:00 at MCDF, maybe Purrier will get back out there!

It would have been nice to see what MacLean could have done in the 1k in Monaco. It was great to see her in the big meets last summer. Maybe another big breakthrough is possible.

Nothing indicates that McGee, Coburn or Jones could run sub-4 at the moment.

...or O’Connor for that matter. Silly math.

Bower Man wrote:

Here's a possibility (and a big ask): Coogan takes his NB Boston team to MCDF.

Elle said on Instagram that the 1500m was her last race of the season. She's getting married soon and it seems that she wants to put some focus on the wedding. But it would be great for Heather and Siofra to have another chance to race, and race officially!

Would be interesting to know if they wore the old NB carbon-plate spikes, which have a stack height of 30mm

agc5k wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Why is Sinclaire Johnson MIA?

Jerry's athletes usually don't race well their first year or two in his system. It takes time to transition to the system, so he's probably bringing her along slowly to allow her to transition to the system. They do a lot more volume than other groups, and that's tough for people when they're new to it.

Right, thats why Centro ran 13:00, the two Stanford kids ran 13:11 and 13:13, Karissa is killing it, all in the first year.

Thanks for bringing these “races” to my attention. I missed all of Mark Coogan’s posts about it yesterday and would never have known otherwise.

Would not describe it as perfect conditions. It was roughly 92F.

Apparently, Marc & gals didn't care about recording official marks, just wanted to run the times for internal motivation & confidence to wrap up the season and show the training effort throughout the year was worth it. Go to worldathletics.org and check the profiles for Elle & Heather, you will not find any of the marks they ran this summer.

Regarding Sinclaire Johnson, go over to Dyestat.com and listen to her video interview. Due to everything being canceled in 2020, she has an agreement with Nike to remain in Stillwater and continue training with Dave Smith/OSU coach for another year. Won't be moving to Portland until after the Olympics (presuming they are held in 2021). So -- though it's not entirely clear from the interview -- I don't think she becomes an official member of BTC until she moves out to Portland and begins training with the team -- which wouldn't be until the fall of 2021.

By the same reasoning, GDS won't become an official Bowerman Babe until the border reopens and she can move to Portland, presumably sometime this fall.

Good News . . . Team Boss will be at MCDC and Emma, at least, is running the 1500:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDzKZDNpaMq/

Cory's 4:21 mile from last month roughly equates to 4:01-4:02 for an open 1500.

Dani & Emma ran 4:23s, roughly equivalent to 4:03-4:04 for an open 1500.

Add in Leah/OAC and who knows who else, Emma's 4:05.24 meet record should go down and all the above mentioned are likely to close in on 4-flat.

Looks like there will be a thunderstorm rolling in on Saturday which will cool things down a little for the under-the-lights races.

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