Do you ever wonder whether coronavirus lockdowns are a "test" of how gullible and complacent the citizenry is?

The only plague that no one can deny is the wack a doos that this virus has stirred up. I liked the world better before I knew how permeated this tin foil hat society is.

"But a hundred thixty thouthand dead!!!!," they lisped

jamin wrote:

Serious question

I doubt it. Much too involved.

I think the BLM riots are more likely to be a test of American gullibility. If you can have someone trash your neighborhood and then do a "Thank you Sir, may I have another" you're pretty gullible with respect to mass media messaging. I don't think the results have been peer reviewed yet, though. So we're waiting until November 3rd on that.

Good to see that deaths from the coronavirus have continued trending downward through July. (Checks worldometer) Oh my. How did that happen?

News flash: Ayn Rand wrote fiction. A world where hyper individualism is a world that only exists in fiction. The world we live in is highly interconnected. Societies where people are willing to make individual sacrifices for the greater good (whether through democratic choice or autocratic orders) is a society that will win out over societies where individual wants and needs are given supremacy. China's economy is back to posting positive growth after gaining complete control over the virus. The US is facing an economic collapse and is seeing thousands die and hundreds of thousands get severely ill from the virus just so we can keep Applebees open.

Honestly no. But do wonder why people deny that it is a real disease.

Nope. I do wonder how long it takes you to think up these ignorant tin foil hat threads. I'm guessing a very, very long time, and I'm being very serious.

Yes...as well as mask mandates.

It goes to show how much government control can achieved through fear & intimidation.

Precious Roy wrote:

Societies where people are willing to make individual sacrifices for the greater good (whether through democratic choice or autocratic orders) is a society that will win out over societies where individual wants and needs are given supremacy.

hahahahaha ?

Precious Roy wrote:

Good to see that deaths from the coronavirus have continued trending downward through July. (Checks worldometer) Oh my. How did that happen?

News flash: Ayn Rand wrote fiction. A world where hyper individualism is a world that only exists in fiction. The world we live in is highly interconnected. Societies where people are willing to make individual sacrifices for the greater good (whether through democratic choice or autocratic orders) is a society that will win out over societies where individual wants and needs are given supremacy. China's economy is back to posting positive growth after gaining complete control over the virus. The US is facing an economic collapse and is seeing thousands die and hundreds of thousands get severely ill from the virus just so we can keep Applebees open.

Well said.

Americas individualism is a very brutal one. If you are not making it, nobody will help you, because it's basically your fault because you didn't work hard enough.

Other countries have a different approach, they still have individualism but that is backed up with some social and health services which makes everyone better.

There is nothing won for the rich if they leave everybody else in the dust. They have to fear that people come for their things because they keep everybody else hungry. A more equal society is even better for the rich. But they will start to appreciate that once the pitchforks are out.

No. But it sure would be a bold strategy to destroy an entire state budget as a "test".

Very complicated but yes, stemmed in preparation for future and worse looming viruses in due to overcrowding and lack of sanitary conditions in meat industry settings. It's thought the current virus has been laying dormant and only came out under perfect conditions. It could happen again. Consider this the test run. In war games officials were prepped with this dilema in a 2025 setting but it came early in comparison to the training timeline.

Why would we need a special test? We have national elections every 2 years that provide this data.

It's not a test. They know how much control they have over society, and it's quite a lot. This project has been ongoing since the end of WWII (See Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow). Everything about our politics and our media landscape is set up to maximize the information gained from feedback (See Weiner, Cybernetics) so as to keep things how they are.

They want you to think that it's a test. They really want you to talk about how you think it's a test. They really really want you to get others talking about how it's a test. You're falling right into their trap. The system is designed to make you think that you think freely, to make you think that you are rebelling in some way when really you give it more information and strengthen it. As time goes on it will only get better at convincing us that we rebel. Look at the BLM demonstrations this time around - how many more people participated? It definitely seems more revolutionary than it was after Ferguson but has any change come (no and it won't)? It will just strengthen the capacity of the system to respond to something like that (just look at how quickly Capital picked up the BLM movement)!

Sure, some things have changed since the end of WWII - but those things are just aesthetic, like different skins on a video game character. We live in the same world where our "job" is to make money and spend it on things to keep neoliberal globalism afloat - in other words, to consume.

This project is called the End of History by academics, Humanity 2.0 by Alex Jones, and the human instrumentality project by the cast of Neon Genesis Evangelion. It's the thing that characterizes the time we live in.

The most vile thing about it is that I can tell you about it and you'll say 'damn, that's crazy what do we do?' My only response is 'I don't know'. There probably won't be a revolution, no one will 'start a new society', maybe Yarvin's 'new' idea of detachment will provide us with some guidance on how to proceed (I doubt it). Perhaps the most likely outcome is some sort of societal collapse, a descent to the Vichian age of gods and chaos. This would probably just be the equivalent to getting to point at which the Ouroboros swallows his own tail - just another, more vicious position on the same endless cycle. For now, we've arrived in the near future and there's no going back.

A passage that I almost immediately memorized upon first reading it in GR sums this up nicely - "Once the technical means of control have reached a certain size, a certain degree of being connected one to another, the chances for freedom are over for good. The word has ceased to have meaning."

If everything you say is true, should we just all move to Australia before things go really south?

Or the U.K.? What country is the best?

Precious Roy wrote:

Good to see that deaths from the coronavirus have continued trending downward through July. (Checks worldometer) Oh my. How did that happen?

News flash: Ayn Rand wrote fiction. A world where hyper individualism is a world that only exists in fiction. The world we live in is highly interconnected. Societies where people are willing to make individual sacrifices for the greater good (whether through democratic choice or autocratic orders) is a society that will win out over societies where individual wants and needs are given supremacy. China's economy is back to posting positive growth after gaining complete control over the virus. The US is facing an economic collapse and is seeing thousands die and hundreds of thousands get severely ill from the virus just so we can keep Applebees open.

Praising communist China. Yikes. This is the result of 50 years of cultural Marxist brainwashing courtesy of our entertainment, mass media and universities.

I mean this sort of thing is happening in every globalized nation. If you want to 'exit' you should go third world, as those countries might still have the option to n[t be part of this whole thing, though social media certainly makes it harder. Your best bet would probably be to stay where you ar, de-involve yourself from politics and most of society and use your free time to cultivate yourself - read, write, engage in art, learn something human, not technical.

jamin wrote:

Serious question

YES. That's the whole modus operandi for their plans.