Whatever Abdi ran in Timberlands on his first run on his community college team, minus 20 seconds.
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Whatever Abdi ran in Timberlands on his first run on his community college team, minus 20 seconds.
This thread continues. I have pointed out a 10 year old girl who ran 18 minutes. How about Eli Krahn who ran 4:09 and 8:58 as a freshmen in high school? Those would have been world records in recent history. That is what modern tracks and shoes add to the equation. He didn't have 20 years of training. Thousands of untrained 14 year olds run 18 minutes for 5k. Hundreds run 16 minutes. A few run under 16 minutes. These are kids who have not lived at elevation nor covered more than 20 feet to their video gaming system. I have made several posts about my own 17 minute 5k overweight and untrained. The criteria is that he would be at race weight and a farmer at elevation who many have said requires 10 miles per day of running and walking. Yes, I can run 17 minutes on no miles per week and overweight but I could beat him at race weight and 70 MPW? Most of you should be banned for a year after making some of the posts that have been made.
talent go wrote:
This thread continues. I have pointed out a 10 year old girl who ran 18 minutes. How about Eli Krahn who ran 4:09 and 8:58 as a freshmen in high school? Those would have been world records in recent history. That is what modern tracks and shoes add to the equation. He didn't have 20 years of training. Thousands of untrained 14 year olds run 18 minutes for 5k. Hundreds run 16 minutes. A few run under 16 minutes. These are kids who have not lived at elevation nor covered more than 20 feet to their video gaming system. I have made several posts about my own 17 minute 5k overweight and untrained. The criteria is that he would be at race weight and a farmer at elevation who many have said requires 10 miles per day of running and walking. Yes, I can run 17 minutes on no miles per week and overweight but I could beat him at race weight and 70 MPW? Most of you should be banned for a year after making some of the posts that have been made.
Totaly agree, let's put the numbers down to make it clear:
Me - 5:20/1500m at 14 years, 21:00/5k untrained as adult vs. 16:30/5k and 4:15/1500m trained
You - 4:55/1600m at 12-13 years, 17:10/5k untrained as adult vs. 14:30/5k and 4:15/1600m trained
Bekele - ??? vs 12:37/5k and 3:32/1500m trained
It is huge egos of people who refuse to admit that somebody else is so much gifted than they are.
talent does it wrote:
talent go wrote:
This thread continues. I have pointed out a 10 year old girl who ran 18 minutes. How about Eli Krahn who ran 4:09 and 8:58 as a freshmen in high school? Those would have been world records in recent history. That is what modern tracks and shoes add to the equation. He didn't have 20 years of training. Thousands of untrained 14 year olds run 18 minutes for 5k. Hundreds run 16 minutes. A few run under 16 minutes. These are kids who have not lived at elevation nor covered more than 20 feet to their video gaming system. I have made several posts about my own 17 minute 5k overweight and untrained. The criteria is that he would be at race weight and a farmer at elevation who many have said requires 10 miles per day of running and walking. Yes, I can run 17 minutes on no miles per week and overweight but I could beat him at race weight and 70 MPW? Most of you should be banned for a year after making some of the posts that have been made.
Totaly agree, let's put the numbers down to make it clear:
Me - 5:20/1500m at 14 years, 21:00/5k untrained as adult vs. 16:30/5k and 4:15/1500m trained
You - 4:55/1600m at 12-13 years, 17:10/5k untrained as adult vs. 14:30/5k and 4:15/1600m trained
Bekele - ??? vs 12:37/5k and 3:32/1500m trained
It is huge egos of people who refuse to admit that somebody else is so much gifted than they are.
I also know :
15 years old : 23 min 5k untrained and 3 years later, 18 yo : 15:14 trained.
But I generally agree. It just depends of the people. For some it takes more hard work, others less hard work etc.
Starno wrote:
I also know :
15 years old : 23 min 5k untrained and 3 years later, 18 yo : 15:14 trained.
Your untrained time would have been better if you were a farmer at altitude.