Are we back to the Coe, Ovett, Cram days of ducking competition?
Are we back to the Coe, Ovett, Cram days of ducking competition?
Sapel wrote:
Are we back to the Coe, Ovett, Cram days of ducking competition?
https://www.worldathletics.org/competitions/world-athletics-continental-tour/news/sifan-hassan-ostrava-5000m-continental-tour
Because this year doesn't matter. Also, she can sleep in her own bed and get in a great effort on her own with pacers catered to her. Why fly over there to race when you have some of the best runners in the world in your own house? She has the financial incentive of adding an AR bonus to her paycheck, so why does she need to race her before the world championships?
You’re making up s*** of ‘ducking competition‘ because someone doesn’t want to travel far during a pandemic? Get out of here.
Why the heck would she want to go to Ostrava?
to (even with drugs) not measure up to a true great of the sport.
sensitive much?
not so sure. houli to me is quite obvious, but I believe sifan to be clean. she was with salazar cause apparel tyrants told her to. like many others and they're not all dirty. either way, she's more talented and I'd like to see them head to head
racing the best whenever you get the chance is extremely important for legacy.
you either need world records or important Ws.
It seems unfair to take the current year as typical. Houlihan ran in international meetings both when she mostly was an "also ran" in 2017 and in 2018 when she beat some of the best and didn't at all avoid them.
If nothing else, BTC have demonstrated that one can run very good times without real competition...
stop it bro wrote:
You’re making up s*** of ‘ducking competition‘ because someone doesn’t want to travel far during a pandemic? Get out of here.
Any old excuse when you're afraid to compete.
Sapel wrote:
Are we back to the Coe, Ovett, Cram days of ducking competition?
https://www.worldathletics.org/competitions/world-athletics-continental-tour/news/sifan-hassan-ostrava-5000m-continental-tour
My sentiments exactly!
If you mean Monaco I imagine the meet promoter didn't invite her. The only Americans invited to the meet are I believe Grant Holloway, Noah Lyles and Donavan Brazier, all World Champions. Houlihan's run some fast times but she has no championship medals. Hassan's a double World Champion. Koko is in the 5,000 but she's a bronze medalist. Laura Muir is in Houlihan's boat (no medals) but she's only running the 1,000. I think if the promoter has to pay for an American they have to have medaled in the last World Championships at the very least.
Houligan isn't relevant enough to get invited and Hassan would bury her anyway.
Excuses, excuses wrote:
stop it bro wrote:
You’re making up s*** of ‘ducking competition‘ because someone doesn’t want to travel far during a pandemic? Get out of here.
Any old excuse when you're afraid to compete.
Just shut your mouth. Shelby is definitely not afraid to compete if you knew anything about her. Stop trying to make something out of nothing. Maybe Sifan should come to the US to race since she was living here.
It's just like the podcast.. she's not a competitor. Fast sure, but records fall. Medals live forever
Sapel wrote:
Are we back to the Coe, Ovett, Cram days of ducking competition?
Those dudes were on the same level. Houlihan is great but she is not on Hassan’s level.
Les wrote:
If you mean Monaco I imagine the meet promoter didn't invite her. The only Americans invited to the meet are I believe Grant Holloway, Noah Lyles and Donavan Brazier, all World Champions. Houlihan's run some fast times but she has no championship medals. Hassan's a double World Champion. Koko is in the 5,000 but she's a bronze medalist. Laura Muir is in Houlihan's boat (no medals) but she's only running the 1,000. I think if the promoter has to pay for an American they have to have medaled in the last World Championships at the very least.
Well Rowbury is running so there goes your theory
Seems that Jerry does not really like putting his athletes in situations (outside of championships) where they may not dominate. I would guess the only reason she would run a meet like Pre is Nike contract but does seem like the group does avoid the big invites
Why isn’t she taking on anyone except her teammates for that matter? Because her coach is a massive p**sy
mr. nice guy wrote:
not so sure. houli to me is quite obvious, but I believe sifan to be clean. she was with salazar cause apparel tyrants told her to. like many others and they're not all dirty. either way, she's more talented and I'd like to see them head to head
We're just going to ignore Sifan's outrageous 2019? She's the one who convinced Salazar had gone beyond "grey area" doping. The mile WR was viewed as one of the dirtiest marks on the books, and she smashed it. Then closing the 10k WC in 3:59? I don't buy it.
She always had world champion talent. With Salazar, she became otherworldly. Dirty AF.
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