Houlihan one mile American record attempt

See now your getting it....

Alright, seeing that they are just doing a women's 800m and a men's 2k DTTH places me firmly in the "this is a lame season-ender" camp.

tj wrote:

Statgeek wrote:

Scratch that, they just announced that the men are a 2k elimination race and the women are all doing an 800.

Very boring! Shame that the BTC gals will drop the mile for an 800m. Nowhere near as interesting as a mile/3k.

The men's 2k elimination could be worth watching though.

Like I was saying, she probably realizes she's not in mile PR shape. She peaked a month ago and didn't look particularly strong in the 1500 last week. She should be able to run an 800 PR at least.

I know you get it but don't like it. Team Boss is a team or group or squad who can hold an intrasquad meet also but you would probably not cry as much because members have different sponsors. They are not a USATF club or college team even though BTC are all wearing the same uniforms. You are obviously wrong because Houlihan's record is going to be ratified by USATF.

racing all day wrote:

I know you get it but don't like it. Team Boss is a team or group or squad who can hold an intrasquad meet also but you would probably not cry as much because members have different sponsors. They are not a USATF club or college team even though BTC are all wearing the same uniforms. You are obviously wrong because Houlihan's record is going to be ratified by USATF.

All that would prove is that the rules don't apply to Nike. Their time trial violated both the letter and the spirit of rule 262-3.

No. And crappy lawyer could see that the language is clear. It prohibits some team from sending in a few a key time from practice that was unwitnessed. These races are out there for the world to see. Enjoy it. Life is too short. You probably didn't like the high school sub 4 this year. Maybe Bannister's time shouldn't count either.

racing all day wrote:

No. And crappy lawyer could see that the language is clear. It prohibits some team from sending in a few a key time from practice that was unwitnessed. These races are out there for the world to see. Enjoy it. Life is too short. You probably didn't like the high school sub 4 this year. Maybe Bannister's time shouldn't count either.

Don't attack the messenger. Roger Bannister read the rulebook before his attempt; BTC did not. Not my fault.

No record shall be acceptable unless it is made in a bona fide scratch running

competition, or a bona fide handicap or scratch competition in a field event, open

to two or more clubs, schools, colleges, or other organizations, which has been

fixed and advertised before the day of competition, and which is included in the

printed program together with the names of the entrants for the events. A record

may be accepted in a handicap race, provided the performance is set in a race in

which (1) all competitors start from the same line, (2) no one has started before

the competitor claiming the record and (3) the race is timed in accordance with

Rule 165.4. At least three competitors, and in relays at least two teams, shall be

bona fide and have participated in the event in which the record purportedly was

established. In field events, a handicap competition may be combined with the

scratch competition. In Men’s and Women’s Track and Field, Long Distance

Running, Race Walking and Masters Track and Field, no record shall be

acceptable unless it was made in an event that had been sanctioned by USATF, a

member organization of USATF or another member Federation of IAAF by

competitors eligible to compete under IAAF Rules.

Hardloper wrote:

tj wrote:

Very boring! Shame that the BTC gals will drop the mile for an 800m. Nowhere near as interesting as a mile/3k.

The men's 2k elimination could be worth watching though.

Like I was saying, she probably realizes she's not in mile PR shape. She peaked a month ago and didn't look particularly strong in the 1500 last week. She should be able to run an 800 PR at least.

I would have to agree.

For anyone interested, the heat sheets are up with live results posted as they come through (and don't want to pay the USAtf.tv subscription):

Most interesting is the first appearance for Sinclaire Johnson (she beat Jessica Hull to win the 2019 NCAA 1500m title for OK state, and recently went pro). Be good to see how she does. Shame she isn't matched up with Houlihan et al in the same 800m fast heat though (they should definitely swap out Gwen Jorgensen from the fast heat and put her in the slower heat with Cragg and Infeld, as they're all longer/slower distance runners - it doesn't make sense to me that they're putting Johnson in the slow heat [rather than Jorgensen]...It seems to me she should be with Houlihan et al.). Johnson has an 800m PB around the 2 min mark somewhere I think, with a decent 400m; Jorgensen has no hope of coming anywhere close to that sort of time in an 800m. I'm sure there is a reason for putting Johnson in the slow heat, but it doesn't seem very clear on paper.

By far the most interesting race will be the men's elimination 2000m.

nikeman wrote:

Men are doing a 2k elimination race (last runner on each lap gets pulled off of the track) and women are now running an 800.

Men race at 6:10PST and women at 6:20PST. Live stream on their Instagram account.

Is there a fee to watch?

The "slow heat" is probably another timed jog, not a real race. And it will be on Instagram this time rather than Runnerspace.

Heat 1 will be a jog for all of the athletes who are injured or coming off of injuries.

Centro and Josh Thompson will both be in slow heats of shorter events as well. It’s to fulfill contract obligations.

It will be interesting to see what Houlihan can run for 800? Under 1:57 would be great, under 1:58 would be good, Under 1:59 is ok, under 2:00 is expected. I predict 1:57. 2

douglas burke wrote:

It will be interesting to see what Houlihan can run for 800? Under 1:57 would be great, under 1:58 would be good, Under 1:59 is ok, under 2:00 is expected. I predict 1:57. 2

Her PR is 1:59.92. That should go down fo sho.

I am sure these meets are just to keep them sharp and to cover contractual obligations. Not set up to set PRs etc except for the 5ks and the 1500 that was set up for Karissa

2:01 low for shelby, she blew up pretty hard towards the end.

I had 2:00.6. If she would have hung with the others first lap she would have broken 2

1st 400 57

3rd 200 31

4th 200 33

2:01.08

2:01.08 official

Shelby looked human the last 150 to 250