seattle prattle wrote:
I'd go with Muddy Waters, Jimmi Hendrix, Elvis, and MIles Davis.
Can't say that it is anything i find remotely interesting to me, but hey, credit where credit is due, and all that....
Why Elvis over Chuck Berry? Curious.
seattle prattle wrote:
I'd go with Muddy Waters, Jimmi Hendrix, Elvis, and MIles Davis.
Can't say that it is anything i find remotely interesting to me, but hey, credit where credit is due, and all that....
Why Elvis over Chuck Berry? Curious.
dfjkdfbsvbv wrote:
I can't believe Brian Wilson is getting so much love. Sure, the Beach Boys had some catchy, fun music, but it was not remarkable in any way.
When Tom Petty died so many note-worthy musicians covered his songs and/or made mention of his weight and influence.
"I think I would put him up there with any composer – especially Pet Sounds. I don't think there's anything better that that, necessarily. I don't think you'd be out of line comparing him to Beethoven – to any composer. The word genius is used a lot with Brian. I don't know if he's a genius or not, but I know his music is probably as good as any music you can make." - Tom Petty
Google it. Dylan, Ronstadt, McCartney, Crosby, Nash... they all revere him.
Bob Dylan
Hank Williams
Patsy Cline
Townes Van Zandt
Have to add a "B" team:
Roy Orbison
Linda Ronstadt
Elvis (Rock-a-Billy Elvis and the stuff before his induction-Blue Hawaii))
Mississippi John Hurt (the most angelic voice)
spots open wrote:
Miles Davis
Bob Dylan
Johhny Cash
Jimmy Hendrix
Most correct answer so far right here.
Ray Charles, Louis Armstrong should be considered.
Also hip hop should not be overlooked. it's got a 40 year streak of introducing more change and innovation to music than any other genre. but so many influencers here. I can't pick just one...
old guy 74 wrote:
Bob Dylan
Hank Williams
Patsy Cline
Townes Van Zandt
Prince
George Walker
Nina Simone
Scott Joplin
Aretha Franklin
Chevalier de Saint-Georges
Michael Jackson
Jimi Hendrix
Kanye
Stevie Wonder
Notorious BIG
George Beidgewater
Luther Vandross
James Brown
Dianna Ross
Whitney Houston
Smokey Robinson
Marvin Gaye
Jay Z
Ray Charles
Smokie Robinson
Otis Redding
Sam Cooke
Chuck berry
Tupac
Lous Armstrong
Change your lists accordingly
agip wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
I'd go with Muddy Waters, Jimmi Hendrix, Elvis, and MIles Davis.
Can't say that it is anything i find remotely interesting to me, but hey, credit where credit is due, and all that....
Why Elvis over Chuck Berry? Curious.
not a hill to die for in my book either way. It's a little before my time in the case of elvis. Now, Chuck Berry is vastly more listenable and enjoyable to me. But the question isn't which ones i like, it's who are the fathers of American music, right? Isn't that what the question is asking in a metaphorical way, and in that the Elvis crooner set the stage for so much to follow and was way bigger than Chuck Berry.
To be honest, besides Hendrix, i wouldn't give any of them a second listen. Ask me who the best musicians of each of those genres, and I'd get excited.
old guy 74 wrote:
Have to add a "B" team:
Roy Orbison
Linda Ronstadt
Elvis (Rock-a-Billy Elvis and the stuff before his induction-Blue Hawaii))
Mississippi John Hurt (the most angelic voice)
I absolutely thrive on Mississippi John Hurt. He's so smooth.
Another one from that group that blows me away is Lightnin' Hopkins. I find he had a command of the blues that has few equals. And with a very light touch. Quite a master.
seattle prattle wrote:
I'd go with Muddy Waters, Jimmi Hendrix, Elvis, and MIles Davis.
To be honest, besides Hendrix, i wouldn't give any of them a second listen. Ask me who the best musicians of each of those genres, and I'd get excited.
Wouldn't give Miles Davis a second listen? wow...
I guess there's no accounting for taste.
He;s good, i just don't listen to jazz much, I've even heard him live once or twice. That is no reflection on his genius, just my taste.
seattle prattle wrote:
agip wrote:
Why Elvis over Chuck Berry? Curious.
not a hill to die for in my book either way. It's a little before my time in the case of elvis. Now, Chuck Berry is vastly more listenable and enjoyable to me. But the question isn't which ones i like, it's who are the fathers of American music, right? Isn't that what the question is asking in a metaphorical way, and in that the Elvis crooner set the stage for so much to follow and was way bigger than Chuck Berry.
To be honest, besides Hendrix, i wouldn't give any of them a second listen. Ask me who the best musicians of each of those genres, and I'd get excited.
depends on what 'mount rushmore' determines.
I mean Ted Roosevelt is up there...not really a father of the nation.
Seems to me Berry created what we know as rock and roll. Elvis was a first-step person who popularized it. Never wrote anything good either.
Without Berry there is no rock and roll...without Elvis there is.
That's how I look at it.
Paris Hilton
Carl Lewis
Eddie Murphy
Some people would say the same about Little Richard
Point well taken.
A strong argument could be made either way.
Elvis had so much commercial success, it's hard to leave him out. On that point alone, the "King" probably earns his spot.
And the mount rushmore is not limited to rock and roll. While Elvis is not as solidly in the rock camp (sounds more of a rock-a-billy influence to me), that is not the point. He was a pop phenom perhaps never equalled before or since,
Chuck Berry was everything you claim. And not just in a passing lick or two, but in a solid, prolific, enduring portfolio of hits, each as solid as the last and widely played, all in early rock and roll genre.
That said, I couldn't care less about Elvis as i said before. Chuck Berry is the man, but that;s just my taste. I think he's much more important as an influential musician, but i don't think that is strictly what a mount rushmore is geared to, So, I'm with you, and wish you were right.
Rock on.
Your thoughts on Chuck Berry mirror mine on Muddy Waters....my last cut. Extremely influential and important musically, I just feel Mount Rushmore should be a place for icons who are icons well beyond their own spheres, over those who were just influential masters. If there is any doubt in the size of their legacy, Mount Rushmore ain't the place.
Muddy Waters was close, but I just feel there just too many people who don't really know him, other than remembering the name and wouldn't instantly recognize his face up on the mountain. To be on the mountain you need to be recognizable from a quarter-mile away.
I could see arguments for Michael Jackson or Madonna, I just don't have as much respect for pop music. But certainly, they were giants and icons and massively influential. I would lean MJ based on talent. To me, Madonna is a bit like Elvis, hard to ignore, but hard to put on the mountain.
I wavered on Johhny Cash over Elvis, but I felt the fat ghost of old Elvis peering down and I just couldn't do it. Elvis was certainly the bigger star at his peak, but I feel that Cash might actually have more staying power and he certainly aged better. He tapped into the American mystique in a way that Elvis never did, so I wouldn't be surprised if in 50 years more people know Johnny Cash songs than Elvis songs. Probably the case already.
Charles Ives
Big Bill Broonzy
Lester Young
Chuck Berry
Can't believe no one else as mentioned Patsy Cline.
not joe lemay wrote:
This is my list MAN! wrote:
Marvin Berry and the Starlighters
Eddie and the Cruisers
Wyld Stallyns
EOT
You forgot Loded Diper. I was going to say Spinal Tap but they're Brits.
This discussion is incomplete without the sadly overlooked Blues Hammer.
Karen MF Carpenter
old guy 74 wrote:
Can't believe no one else as mentioned Patsy Cline.
I would put Brenda Lee and Billie Holiday before Patsy Cline; a chacun a son gout