Haile G’s Hotels Burn Down

Usual Suspects wrote:

Anyone check Mo's whereabouts?

That was my immediate thought.

Haile Gebresselassie is not oromo? I thought he was.

Bekele definitely is, so his own business should be fine.

borders wrote:

Unfortunately colonizers carving the continent up during the last couple centuries into "countries" with little regard to existing ethnic, cultural, and political dynamics has only blown this up. Hard existing in a peaceful equilibrium if a border now splits your ethnic group in half and includes some part of some other group, all now supposed to be governed under the same political entity. And also having to start with ravaged economic and social infrastructure.

Yes, I 100 percent agree with this.

All the artificial "government" bodies are causing strife all over the world.

rojo wrote:

This story certainly puts the troubles America is having in perspective on so many different levels.

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Are you referring to your car trouble a few weeks back?

Protests followed shooting death of popular singer Hachalu Hundessa on June 29

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/ethiopias-week-of-unrest-sees-239-dead-3500-arrested/2020/07/08/8eb30952-c100-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html

Ethiopia enters 3rd week of internet shutdown after deadly unrest

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ethiopia-internet-shutdown-unrest-1.5649893

The Oromo ethnic group

Hundeessa, 36, the Oromo-language singer and songwriter was buried on Thursday under heavy police and military presence in his hometown of Ambo, about 100km (62 miles) west of the capital Addis Ababa.

He is survived by his wife and two children.

They're turning into a shithole country almost as bad as the US.

Hardloper wrote:

Sad. You expect to read this type of news in hellholes like Seattle and Portland but not Addis Ababa.

Yeah, stay the fun away from Portland and Seattle.

Bummer for Haile, hope he has good insurance

Is there like literally a civil war in Ethiopia now. They must be pretty retarded if they are destroying the country when Haile was a big source of wealth for Ethiopia. Maybe most people like been poor and dumb. Bekele should knock some sense into them

got my first ban recently wrote:

“The investigators found that all the doorbells in the rubble were mysteriously broken”

+1 Sir Mo da face of a home games couldnt do any wrong. ;)

rojo wrote:

This story certainly puts the troubles America is having in perspective on so many different levels.

It sure does.

rojo wrote:

The more I think about [the Ivy League BBall tourney being canceled] the more this pisses me off as it reminds me the administrators really have no idea what sports mean to the athletes. These kids have played their whole lives, dreaming for March Madness. Now for the seniors, that's it.

Webbasedreading wrote:

rojo wrote:

This story certainly puts the troubles America is having in perspective on so many different levels.

It sure does.

rojo wrote:

The more I think about [the Ivy League BBall tourney being canceled] the more this pisses me off as it reminds me the administrators really have no idea what sports mean to the athletes. These kids have played their whole lives, dreaming for March Madness. Now for the seniors, that's it.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9883547#9883811

10/10. Well done.

What's your point, Rojo? Are you insinuating U.S. Citizens are overreacting to police brutality? Or are you suggesting "yeah we have issues, but it could be worse.

borders wrote:

Unfortunately colonizers carving the continent up during the last couple centuries into "countries" with little regard to existing ethnic, cultural, and political dynamics has only blown this up.

This point has been over-emphasized.

Do you think African tribes were living in prosperous peace and harmony before colonizers showed up?

I majored in poli sci back in the day, and in my international development course, I learned that the most stable Third World countries were generally the ones that had been colonized by the British and had a set of reasonably stable institutions imposed on them.

In other words, the countries that had been most thoroughly colonized for the longest period of time, were doing the best in the modern world. Other countries that were doing their own thing tended to do less well.

He has insurance.. wahhhhhhhhhhhhh he has to pay a $100,000 deductible and his hotels are built to new.. wahhhhhhh................................................

borders wrote:

Unfortunately colonizers carving the continent up during the last couple centuries into "countries" with little regard to existing ethnic, cultural, and political dynamics has only blown this up. Hard existing in a peaceful equilibrium if a border now splits your ethnic group in half and includes some part of some other group, all now supposed to be governed under the same political entity. And also having to start with ravaged economic and social infrastructure.

Blah, blah, blah. Blaming colonisers again for the fact that tribalism and the associated looting and killing existed since way before colonization.

Brittle Master 1958 wrote:

borders wrote:

Unfortunately colonizers carving the continent up during the last couple centuries into "countries" with little regard to existing ethnic, cultural, and political dynamics has only blown this up.

This point has been over-emphasized.

Do you think African tribes were living in prosperous peace and harmony before colonizers showed up?

I majored in poli sci back in the day, and in my international development course, I learned that the most stable Third World countries were generally the ones that had been colonized by the British and had a set of reasonably stable institutions imposed on them.

In other words, the countries that had been most thoroughly colonized for the longest period of time, were doing the best in the modern world. Other countries that were doing their own thing tended to do less well.

I'm not necessarily saying you're wrong, but I just wanted to point out that learning something in a Western poli sci course doesn't make it fact.... same goes wherever you learn poli sci/history/anthropology/etc, since each part of the world will have their own interpretation of what's "right."

One might also argue that the reason that "the countries that had been most thoroughly colonized... were doing the best in the modern world" is that the "modern world" has largely been shaped by Western influence. One country may have been able to build on infrastructure developed under colonialism while the development of another may have been throttled (both phenomena perhaps being direct or indirect consequences of foreign intervention), with the former being more prepared for the "modern world" after attaining independence. It is not so much that one society/culture is better than another, but the problem of one system suddenly having to coexist inside another more overwhelming one.

No civilization is without conflict. But I would argue that colonization and the centuries-long chain of events it set off certainly did not help existing problems and a lot of groups. You're right that my post vastly oversimplifies things and almost comes across as a "noble savage" trope, but then again, this is letsrun, which is not the right format to discuss nuanced issues. :)

AU wrote:

Unfortunately, in Africa violent tribal and ethnic clashes within a country is a daily occurrence. Then, add to that xenophobia (that nice euphemism for hatred by black people for other black people in their country but who were born in another country ) and racism (the generally defined black <--> white hatred), and you have a daily soup of violence and destruction which is one of the contributing factors why the vast majority of African countries just don't seem to be able to move forward, their economies are stagnant, and the people remain destitute.

Source - I've been living in Africa my whole life and have seen different variations of this movie play out countless times.

Africa is quite a vast continent. You should qualify by which countries you refer to.

Daily occurrences of violent tribal and ethnic clashes ???

AU wrote:

tribalism and the associated looting and killing existed since way before colonization.

The leftist says, "I've got an idea! Let's invite all the Oromo, Palestinians, and Iranians to America and give them free money, healthcare, and houses. This will fix the problem and create peace in a diverse, multicultural, and socialist utopia. The conservatives are idiots because America was never great. Only the poor, uneducated, and violent people from the Third World can make America a better place of peace and prosperity. We can learn a lot from Third World countries."

rojo wrote:

This story certainly puts the troubles America is having in perspective on so many different levels.

translation:

africa has it worst, so get over it.