A COVID denier starting a thread saying "X shows that COVID is no big deal" is basically a death sentence for the example location. I'm almost inclined to believe there is divine intervention at this point.
It's like Luo Ji's transmission in 3 body problem or something.
WaitWhat? wrote:
clownworld show wrote:
Lol. Right. Makes perfect sense. They should have just marched by the thousands and rioted together like BLM and Antifa so that they don't get infected. As a matter of fact several key leftist leaders were actually saying that the the marches and riots are good and they won't cause the spread of the virus. May even cause the reduction of the virus! Brilliant!
Oh you stupid, stupid tyranny supporters.
I'm not sure what BLM or Antifa has to do with any of this............but I'll say one thing. Look at theh protesters - 99% WEAR MASKS
He.he. Yes. 99%
I'll tell you one thing. That Sturgis festival most certainly had better social distancing..
https://www.eater.com/2020/6/8/21283927/how-restaurants-can-help-black-lives-matter-racial-injustice-blm-protestsThis thread just keeps getting better with age.
North Dakota: 728 deaths/1M (pop density 10.5 sq/mi)
South Dakota: 495 deaths/1M (pop density 11.1 sq/mi)
California: 448 deaths/1M (pop density 246 sq/mi)
None of the deaths were from a covid19 virus.
And none of the PCR procedures, which is not a test, found a covid19 virus.
dunes runner wrote:
None of the deaths were from a covid19 virus.
And none of the PCR procedures, which is not a test, found a covid19 virus.
none of your facts are from truth
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
I just got back from a vacation to Colorado and South Dakota. It was amazing the stark difference between South Dakota and their neighboring states. South Dakota is fully open for business and has been for several months. The Black Hills were full of tourists, maybe not a normal year for them but there were big crowds at Mount Rushmore, Deadwood, Keystone, Badlands, and Rapid City was operating like normal. Really the only way you could tell there was any pandemic going on was about 10% of people wore masks, and some businesses required employees to wear masks. Some Dining and bars/breweries also followed separation rules for separate parties but this was not across the board. Those of us who believe this was an overreaction have touted Sweden, but South Dakota has been even more open. If you look at their numbers they've had cases, actually close to the same per capita as California but deaths have been far lower.
The other thing that was very noticeable is the atmosphere was far different than the rest of the country. No one was on edge on the virus. There was no hysteria about getting to close to someone, those who chose to wear masks had no qualms getting near people without masks and there were no dirty looks. In Colorado, we were chewed out by a couple for not wearing masks on a trail in a very low traffic area in Rocky Mt Nat Park. The people of South Dakota we talked to were overwhelmingly in favor of their state's response. Their main points were appreciation that their governor chose to let individuals and businesses respond in the way they felt appropriate and also prioritize the state's economy.
I know some are going to say, a state with low population density, the virus is not going spread as much. But I was just in the Black Hills, trust me they are packed with people from both South Dakota and states around the country.
They may not have a major metro but there are a couple of decent sized cities where people are out and about in a normal way. This has been going as mentioned for months and there has been no medical crisis or out of control surge. It has really convinced me the pandemic is as bad as you choose to make it. I'm not suggesting COVID is a made-up thing, but there is a small segment of the population COVID is dangerous to in a statistically meaningful way and we should allow those individuals to be protected but not stop everyone else from living. It should not be up to our elected officials to decide how we respond as individuals. If a business wants to open up let the public decide if they feel comfortable going. The ability to live one's life in the way we choose is a core American tenant that has been taken away through this pandemic. We are adults and can make the choice for ourselves, the information is out there for us to make the decision for ourselves. If someone feels that the actions of others in a specific public place or business put them at risk, don't go, that's your right. Although it's not your right to sit at home and do nothing on my dime as I've been out working since Day 1 when we thought this thing was way worse than it is.
Initially, there were some shots at South Dakota's governor from the national media. But as things have continued to go well this has been ignored by the national media. I hope people start paying attention to this and realize we don't need to continue to let out lives be dominated by the virus.
315 South Dakotans died from COVID 19 since this post and over 40,000 have been infected. And there is no sign of any improvement in the outbreak.
dunes runner wrote:
None of the deaths were from a covid19 virus.
And none of the PCR procedures, which is not a test, found a covid19 virus.
What about the flu? Do people die from the flu or flu-related complications?
Let's review the recent daily Covid deaths in Sweden,
CDC numbers backwards from 11/2:
2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2.
In a nation of 10 million plus.
Whatever they did seems to have worked.
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
* wrote:
11 people per square mile
Yes because how COVID chooses to spread is looking at a states pop per sq mile then acts accordingly. There is a lot of open space where no one or very few people live. There are also a couple of cities where a decent number of people live. Not New York or another major city by any means, but not small towns at all. One city of over 200K and another close to one 100K. Not to mention several locales bustling with tourists. There are areas of population density where viruses can spread.
Looking at the pop density of the state as a whole is misleading because 90% of the population probably lives in 2-3% of the state and the other 10% is spread out over the rest.
It's fair comment that you can't just look at the aggregate numbers. In addition to the distribution of population, various lifestyle factors might be relevant.
But still, they are very different:
Sweden has Stockholm 1.5m, Gothenburg 600k, Malmo 300k, Uppsala 220k ... 10th biggest is 97k... 20th biggest is 64k.
It's a big difference to Sioux Falls 190k, Rapid City 77k, Aberdeen 29k, 10th biggest 12k
I think a better comparison might be another sparsely populated state. Is South Dakota doing better than Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, New Mexico, Idaho, Nebraska?
dunes runner wrote:
What about the flu? Do people die from the flu or flu-related complications?
I've never known of anyone who's died from the flu, but many people do die from medical incompetence and medical malpractice.
dunes runner wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
What about the flu? Do people die from the flu or flu-related complications?
I've never known of anyone who's died from the flu, but many people do die from medical incompetence and medical malpractice.
Ditto.
I have known many people who have died.
Not one from a flu.
indeed it does wrote:
North Dakota: 728 deaths/1M (pop density 10.5 sq/mi)
South Dakota: 495 deaths/1M (pop density 11.1 sq/mi)
California: 448 deaths/1M (pop density 246 sq/mi)
Time for an update. S Dakota reported 53 Covid-19 deaths today. The average number of deaths from all causes is around 20 per day.
North Dakota: 953 deaths/1M (pop density 10.5 sq/mi)
South Dakota: 702 deaths/1M (pop density 11.1 sq/mi)
California: 461 deaths/1M (pop density 246 sq/mi)
The reason why America and some other countries are doing so badly in this is that they have made the virus and the response to it a political issue. The BLM and antifa protests should not have happened like that. Likewise, the other protests should not have either. So posting pictures of people not socially distancing means nothing. It just shows yet more Americans not doing things right, which is pretty much the whole point. You have divided yourselves to the point of falling apart; America is on fire.
PS you also fell right into the hands of the East - can you not see that?
Reasonable posters/human beings like Precious Roy et al excepted.
Other guy wrote:
Let's review the recent daily Covid deaths in Sweden,
CDC numbers backwards from 11/2:
2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2.
In a nation of 10 million plus.
Whatever they did seems to have worked.
The average now is 13.7 deaths per day in November. And it is on the rise. It doesn't work at all. The infections numbers yesterday: 5990 - would be 196000 in US. And they don't test as many. Personally I wish yoy were right, but not so. Next time they report new numbers is on Tuesday. It is going to be bad. Just lagging behind the rest of Europe, but now on full speed.
How many more Liberal politicians will need to violate their own restrictions in order for you to understand the level of BS going on here. These people have all the information and are putting in place heavy-handed restrictions yet they have no problem violating them. Clearly that should tell you how seriously they view the virus. It's amazing how many have just swallowed the narrative.